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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #153829
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I just would hate to see perfect 70 grilles ground up, they will sell, It will just take time. I think your price is reasonable and I sure wish I could have bought one when I redid my 70 HemiCuda.
I can't see 71 grilles being a better seller than a sharktooth although the A-body cars are of a lower restored value than a 71 Cuda or 71 clone.

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If it wasn't for the high cost of shipping I would buy a 70 grill just to put on my shelf. Let me know when the fire sale is and I'll take two


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If it wasn't for the high cost of shipping I would buy a 70 grill just to put on my shelf. Let me know when the fire sale is and I'll take two




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I'd put a few back myself just for future prospects.



if the decision is between the duster grille and 71 cuda grille, I agree with Scott do the sharktooth

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I'd put a few back myself just for future prospects.



Count me in on the fire sale too.
I don't have a need for a 70 'Cuda grill but you never know.
It definitely would look cool mounted on my garage wall.
I can drive over and pick one up.

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I can't see 71 grilles being a better seller than a sharktooth although the A-body cars are of a lower restored value than a 71 Cuda or 71 clone.

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Yeah Mike, it would be nice to see a new 71 Cuda' grill,....and as you know I understand the "process" not to mention the money for an endeavor of that undertaking,......granted, the economy is in the tank right now, and "disposable" income isn't readilly available, so items like your 70 grilles may be slow movers,.....for how long, that's anyones guess,.....and grinding up unused raw stock, to produce the A body shark grills,?....yes, they are sought after, just as much as any other desirable part, .....but keep in mind, the A body "crowd" is the "lower spectrum" in the economic thought process, that A bodies are "plentiful" and "cheap/ economical" to do/restore, vs an E body or desirable B-body......nothing condensending here, just a fact a lot of enthusiast will restore an A body, because of the plentiful amount of cars left, and the lower value the parts command,....so if you consider a sharks tooth A body grille, what will the A body market "bear" for a price?.......not much, I would think

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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST [Re: HEMICUDA] #153834
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"The investment is extremely high and I really don't want to be in the same situation we are currently in with the 70 Cuda grille assembly we made."

Mike can you explain this statement further No bad news I hope

I'd buy a 71 grill or two





What's there to explain? The 70 grilles that aren't painted and detailed yet are going to be ground up and used to make other ABS plastic parts.





If you haven't been selling the 70 grills then I doubt you'll sell very many 71's.





Actually, it's a toss up where we will be using the ground up plastic between the 71 Cuda and the Duster Sharktooth grille. I'm leaning towards the shark.




I wouldn't get too pumped up over the Sharktooths. The last 2 years at Carlisle there was 20-30 of them there for sale each year. Could buy a mint one for under 500.00


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Lets not forget we are in a serious recession right now and that HAS to be effecting sales across the board, especially high dollar stuff. I think demand for Cuda grills will return some day.


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Lets not forget we are in a serious recession right now and that HAS to be effecting sales across the board, especially high dollar stuff. I think demand for Cuda grills will return some day.




I have to agree on this. I am trying to talk my sister in getting a grill for her cuda and I need to get one for my AAR. Keep in mind I have several original grills so I am not desperate at all. The way the economy has been for the last year for me has been tough. A Daughter in college, $5000 in medical bills and a lawyer with his hand out all the time and I have no extra money. I am saving my cash for the rainy day that is right around the corner.

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Mike,

You know what I would want you to make

Make the '71 Cuda grilles and I will be in for at least 2 of them Especially the quality you put into them...

Notce how all the Premier made grilles sold out despite the lack of quality and it wasn't that much cheaper than your target price.

I agree with Dayclona and Moparmarks, lots of shark tooth grilles out there and the A-body crowd is not use to spending as much on "pretty parts" as the E-body crowd (Please no A-body harm meant )

Besides, you, I and Joe Mopar will get to have spares

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Notce how all the Premier made grilles sold out despite the lack of quality and it wasn't that much cheaper than your target price.





Yeah but their investment to make a resin cast part wasn't even on the same planet..They needed to sell what five? to break even? & if they sold fifteen the mold was failing so what little quality they once had was gone.... I'd love to see Mike do 71 grilles at his typical quality level...But I'd also like to see him be able to turn a profit cause in the end thats what he makes parts for...Don't get me wrong Mike has the love for these cars but if he can't at least come close to making a profit then he's wiser to look elsewhere...

On the other side Mike has 71 Cuda's also so his commitment to this project could be easily biased.... Good luck to those who own 71's... I wouldn't wanna bet either way...

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I have a hard time beleiving you can't come out ahead by discounting and offing the molded grilles instead of trying to recoup whatever money is in the regrind.




Point well taken. I have a serious question for you, what price do you think the 70 Cuda grille assemblies should be for them to move? Keep in mind, I can write off a loss, use the material for other parts and have more warehouse space for profitable product. All that adds up to value.



How fast did you think they were going to sell?
I for one had no idea there was a time limit set to purchase them.

I saw them at Carlisle and was impressed & actually planned to buy 1 even though I don't have a cuda at the moment.
But not until next year when I know I will have some cash freed up...
But if your going to offer stuff with a "6month window" b4 sending the parts to the grinder thats not going to happen.
Also have to say it kind knocked you off the pedestal I had you on for doing such a fine job on it in the 1st place.

Not everyone can cough up $1500 at the drop of a hat... I'd bet there are probably some folks saving up for them right now that won't be happy when they go to the shows next summer with cash in hand only to find out you ground them all up.

The 70 grills are killer...
Don't grind them just to take a Tax loss in 08 (you may need that more under the 09 Obama rates)


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I have a hard time beleiving you can't come out ahead by discounting and offing the molded grilles instead of trying to recoup whatever money is in the regrind.




Point well taken. I have a serious question for you, what price do you think the 70 Cuda grille assemblies should be for them to move? Keep in mind, I can write off a loss, use the material for other parts and have more warehouse space for profitable product. All that adds up to value.



How fast did you think they were going to sell?
I for one had no idea there was a time limit set to purchase them.

I saw them at Carlisle and was impressed & actually planned to buy 1 even though I don't have a cuda at the moment.
But not until next year when I know I will have some cash freed up...
But if your going to offer stuff with a "6month window" b4 sending the parts to the grinder thats not going to happen.
Also have to say it kind knocked you off the pedestal I had you on for doing such a fine job on it in the 1st place.

Not everyone can cough up $1500 at the drop of a hat... I'd bet there are probably some folks saving up for them right now that won't be happy when they go to the shows next summer with cash in hand only to find out you ground them all up.

The 70 grills are killer...
Don't grind them just to take a Tax loss in 08 (you may need that more under the 09 Obama rates)





This post was not started with the intent to go where it is today. The situation the Cuda grilles are in right now are totally out of my control and it has nothing to do with sales, honestly, the sales are where I projected them to be based on the economy.

Because the public isn’t informed on all the information as it pertains to this specific part, it sounds like people are developing unwarranted opinions without having all the facts. Because of possible legal ramifications I can not say a whole lot, but I think I can say this. Anyone that knows me knows I’m into Cudas, I’ve been chomping at the bit for a long time to reproduce an over the top Cuda grille, problem was , it was a stretch for B/E & A Restoration Parts, Inc. to fund this project on it’s own. With all the other financial obligations to other parts, there wasn’t enough money in the budget.

Every part we have produced and that sits on the shelf is paid for, I refuse to owe anyone money. The whole grille project was possible because of a contractual partnership with a very large company that is now refusing delivery. The problem isn’t the sales volume for the grille, it’s the amount of volume that I had to pay for that is jamming me up a little. We have financed 100% of this project without any monies up front from the other company involved.

It’s not that I don’t think the grille will sell, problem is I have an enormous amount of inventory that has put a huge financial burden on our company. It isn’t my suppliers problem that I can’t make delivery of half of the production run, my obligation to them is to pay which I did in full. So for now, we are in a “tug of war” with a company that hasn’t honored their legal side of the contract.

I have worked in a big business environment for most of my adult life (ok, so the adult part is a stretch), I’m not going to get rattled and run around in a panic with my head cut off. The total volume run of the part wasn’t earmarked to sell in 6 months I knew that, nor do I think to many were made, my problem is the total volume B/E & A has here that is.

As for a “fire sale”? I wouldn’t count on it, I might entertain discounts on the grille to move the added volume we are carrying. Running around like a scalded cat isn’t going to happen.

I truly hope this clears up any misperception and negative attitudes that people might have because of this. I have a great passion for this hobby and for every customer (I really mean friend) that we have done business with.

This company isn’t going anywhere, I’m having way to much fun with everyone and I definitely don’t want to go back to the real job. Now get busy putting the wish list together, Christmas is right around the corner!

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Well said. I can fully understand the mood and reasonings, especially with todays economy.(believe me I know all to well)
But, I wish you the best of luck in what ever course of direction you decide to persue.

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Well said. I can fully understand the mood and reasonings, especially with todays economy.(believe me I know all to well)
But, I wish you the best of luck in what ever course of direction you decide to persue.




Until total honesty is on the table, we're not even talking about reality...
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I don't understand what '70 Cuda owners are sitting on their hands for.

Heck, restoring a '70 CHallenger grille and bezels costs about the same as a complete new '70 'cuda grille setup!

Mike @Alltrim does awesome work, but it wasn't cheap by any means.

It seems like the '71 'Cuda grille would be a bit cheaper to make b/c of its one piece design. Grilles, bezels, chrome trim surrounds can be had elsewhere. But the big one piece plastic part....that is what's sorely needed.

Make a '71 grille for $750 and you'll have a ton of people just buying them for spares or resale.

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Forget the 71 grilles - MAKE THE DOOR PANELS INSTEAD!!!




I too would be interested in door panels.

As far as the 71 grill I do not need ine as my original is good, but I sure would like to know quality replacements were available being that I like to put miles on my car. Like others said your target price makes it almost worth it to buy a spare, but honestly I could not pull the trigger on that purchase at this time. I like HemiChallengers suggestion of taking pre-orders. Good luck and keep up the good work.


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I have a hard time beleiving you can't come out ahead by discounting and offing the molded grilles instead of trying to recoup whatever money is in the regrind.




That is what I was thinking when I read the first post.


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I read the big post, I don't understand anything better after that.

If you have too much inventory, lower the price. That is basic as it gets.

If 10% doesn't do it, go lower. Really, you just need to decide how much you need and price it that way. You will be WAY ahead of grinding them up and putting more money in the hole.

Nothing else really to say.

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Because the public isn’t informed on all the information as it pertains to this specific part, it sounds like people are developing unwarranted opinions without having all the facts.




Best sentence in the entire thread!

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What's there to explain? The 70 grilles that aren't painted and detailed yet are going to be ground up and used to make other ABS plastic parts.




Does this mean the AAR grills are no longer available? The decision has been made to scrap?

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