|
If not moog, then?
#1537645
11/21/13 02:10 AM
11/21/13 02:10 AM
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 157
Winlock, Wa
fshd4it
OP
member
|
OP
member
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 157
Winlock, Wa
|
I've heard and read that moog is making some, most or all of their suspension parts offshore now. I haven't bought any in quite a while, but it's time to redo the front end on my challenger, and I'm wondering if their quality has become an issue. What's a good brand to look at instead? My car won't see a thousand miles a year, but I still want something I won't lose sleep over.
In order to know what you want, you'll probably have to find out what you don't want.
|
|
|
Re: If not moog, then?
[Re: Jim_Lusk]
#1537649
11/21/13 09:07 AM
11/21/13 09:07 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,796
Greer, SC
TooMany62s
top fuel
|
top fuel
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,796
Greer, SC
|
I think the most of the Raybestos chassis "premium" line is still made here. But the "economy" line is China and India. I used to work there. It's the same problem with rotors. There's just not enough buyers for the US made product to keep a plant going. Too many people just want cheap.
CarQuest still sells Raybestos chassis. At least for now. But since they've been bought by Advance that's likely to change.
Last edited by TooMany62s; 11/21/13 09:10 AM.
|
|
|
Re: If not moog, then?
[Re: TooMany62s]
#1537650
11/21/13 09:22 AM
11/21/13 09:22 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,177
ill
dennismopar73
top fuel
|
top fuel
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,177
ill
|
The moog /trw/chassie engineering/rybestoe/dana/ , are all being made overseas, there are some old stock floating around but thats just the way it is.
wheather you buy your parts from car quest/ napa/ advance / rock auto/ autozone, your buying the same stuff, despite others who have a thinking other wise,some just want to believe that so n so parts are better or if I buy them from a dealer i get better parts,
if you believe any of it, I got some deal on ground in florida for sale cheap.
Just go where you recieve the best service, and whom happens to have a little knowlege behind that counter,
thats the only difference in parts stores today !
|
|
|
Re: If not moog, then?
[Re: dennismopar73]
#1537651
11/21/13 11:43 AM
11/21/13 11:43 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 12,160
Benton, IL.
DaveRS23
Special needs idiot
|
Special needs idiot
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 12,160
Benton, IL.
|
For well over a year now, I have noticed that the Moog and TRW suspension parts that I buy are made overseas. But the price has not come down. And of course, the house brand of suspension parts are also made overseas. So I ask this question which is similar to what the OP is asking; Are name brand Chinese made suspension parts any better than parts house branded Chinese parts? 
Master, again and still
|
|
|
Re: If not moog, then?
[Re: dennismopar73]
#1537652
11/21/13 12:14 PM
11/21/13 12:14 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 157
Winlock, Wa
fshd4it
OP
member
|
OP
member
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 157
Winlock, Wa
|
I know price is not always a reflection of quality. However, I see parts from raybestos " professional grade" and ac/delco running at a 50-75 percent premium over moog's "problem solver" line. I'm on good enough terms with my local (privately owned) parts store that I could order in 2 or 3 brands and compare...I know the last moog pieces I bought (for my daughter's sebring) were identical to the cheapest name in the store. But twice as much money.
In order to know what you want, you'll probably have to find out what you don't want.
|
|
|
Re: If not moog, then?
[Re: Jim_Lusk]
#1537653
11/21/13 09:17 PM
11/21/13 09:17 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,516
Santa Cruz, California
Lefty
master
|
master
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,516
Santa Cruz, California
|
Quote:
Try Raybestos Chassis. They might still be made here. Check with Bill Rolik, he is/was a dealer.
That's what I use now as well when I have a choice.
|
|
|
Re: If not moog, then?
[Re: Lefty]
#1537654
11/22/13 08:10 AM
11/22/13 08:10 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,076
Niles , Ohio
therocks
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
|
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,076
Niles , Ohio
|
If you get lucky and find some TRW in stock grab them.They are as good or better than the old Moog stuff.I have some old Moog stuff for a C body in the garage.Its been sitting for at least 20 years.Same thing with an idler arm for a 57 Chrysler.Rocky
Chrysler Firepower
|
|
|
Re: If not moog, then?
[Re: fshd4it]
#1537655
11/22/13 09:19 AM
11/22/13 09:19 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,574
Lakeland FL
floridian
pro stock
|
pro stock
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,574
Lakeland FL
|
Quote:
I know price is not always a reflection of quality. However, I see parts from raybestos " professional grade" and ac/delco running at a 50-75 percent premium over moog's "problem solver" line. I'm on good enough terms with my local (privately owned) parts store that I could order in 2 or 3 brands and compare...I know the last moog pieces I bought (for my daughter's sebring) were identical to the cheapest name in the store. But twice as much money.
I have seen this when comparing rotors.. Same one 3 different prices..Buyer beware...
|
|
|
Re: If not moog, then?
[Re: TooMany62s]
#1537657
11/22/13 12:26 PM
11/22/13 12:26 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 157
Winlock, Wa
fshd4it
OP
member
|
OP
member
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 157
Winlock, Wa
|
Well, I've done internet searches on what I consider to be the name brands-all have various threads on different forums about being imported now. Their own websites don't mention anything about being US made. You'd think that would be a selling point. Not a rant, I suppose that's just how it is these days. I do have one more option, though- the stock front end on this car was rebuilt about seven or eight years, and less than a thosand miles ago, with a PST kit I bought in 2003. But I'm changing everything (welded k, lca's, uca's, t-bars, sway bar, strut rods, knuckles etc) and was just going to leave the old front end complete. I could reuse the stuff that came from PST, if they hadn't already switched to a cheaper supplier by then. Admittedly, if I can't find USA on the parts, I'll still be in the dark...
In order to know what you want, you'll probably have to find out what you don't want.
|
|
|
Re: If not moog, then?
[Re: dennismopar73]
#1537658
11/22/13 12:42 PM
11/22/13 12:42 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,886
Lost and Spaced
bboogieart
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,886
Lost and Spaced
|
Quote:
The moog /trw/chassie engineering/rybestoe/dana/ , are all being made overseas, there are some old stock floating around but thats just the way it is.
wheather you buy your parts from car quest/ napa/ advance / rock auto/ autozone, your buying the same stuff, despite others who have a thinking other wise,some just want to believe that so n so parts are better or if I buy them from a dealer i get better parts,
if you believe any of it, I got some deal on ground in florida for sale cheap.
Just go where you recieve the best service, and whom happens to have a little knowlege behind that counter,
thats the only difference in parts stores today !
This is so well put. How many foundries do people think are out there producing forty year old out dated products. The market is driven by sales, it's that simple.
I have mechanical Aptitude.
I can screw up anything.
|
|
|
Re: If not moog, then?
[Re: Wayne L]
#1537660
11/23/13 06:55 PM
11/23/13 06:55 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 12,291
Kent, Wa
340SHORTY
Truck Nut
|
Truck Nut
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 12,291
Kent, Wa
|
Id buy from rock auto and if not them whom ever has the best price with a warrantee..
I am truckless..
|
|
|
Re: If not moog, then?
[Re: 340SHORTY]
#1537661
11/23/13 08:15 PM
11/23/13 08:15 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 18,678
Fresno, CA
Jim_Lusk
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 18,678
Fresno, CA
|
Quote:
Id buy from rock auto and if not them whom ever has the best price with a warrantee..
A warranty is all fine and dandy on some things, but when a ball joint breaks it's not the same as a lifetime water pump failing. One of the part's guys at the local O'Reilly's put a Chinese ball joint in his Honda. It broke, so he decided it must have just been a defective one, so he put in another. It also broke...Then he went with Moog and it hasn't broke.
|
|
|
Re: If not moog, then?
[Re: fshd4it]
#1537663
11/24/13 04:20 AM
11/24/13 04:20 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,344
Central TX
roe
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,344
Central TX
|
The lower balljoints that came in my rebuild kit have slop in them already (Mcquay Norris IIRC). I ordered some replacements from the NAPA premium chassis line, and they look to be STOUTLY built pieces. I havent' installed them yet though. But everything that I've ever heard about this is good.
1971 Plymouth Satellite
408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG
|
|
|
|
|
lot's of garbage being sold,I don't have an answer.
