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#153202 - 11/19/08 07:02 AM 1964 Max Wedge Tri-Y Exhaust Manifolds - Need Help!
ScottSmith_Harms Offline
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I'm looking to BORROW an ultra rare pair of 1964 Tri-Y Max Wedge Exhaust manifolds. I have made this request several times in the past but to no avail, these pictures (sent to me by a fellow Moparts member) are as close as I've come.

My goal is to have them digitized and return them unscathed, I want to have them reproduced and would be willing to work out an appropriate "reward" for the help. I would be willing to transport them in any way the owner deems appropriate to ensure thier safety.

I didn't post this in the "Wanted" section because I'm not looking to buy anything, only seeking a means to an end in getting them reproduced properly. Mods, if you feel this is inappropriate please feel free to move the thread.

Thanks!
Scott

*Style shown in this factory B&W promo shot show the style I'm seeking


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#153203 - 11/19/08 07:04 AM Re: 1964 Max Wedge Tri-Y Exhaust Manifolds - Need Help! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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Most would agree that these were never installed on a production MW car sold to the public (although it's possible). Shown here are a set installed by thier currect owner, tight fit but the cool factor is off the charts!


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#153204 - 11/19/08 07:04 AM Re: 1964 Max Wedge Tri-Y Exhaust Manifolds - Need Help! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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other side


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#153205 - 11/19/08 07:05 AM Re: 1964 Max Wedge Tri-Y Exhaust Manifolds - Need Help! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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Here is the style already being reproduced that most if not all factory MW cars actually recieved.


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#153206 - 11/19/08 07:12 AM Re: 1964 Max Wedge Tri-Y Exhaust Manifolds - Need Help! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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They would be bad as$ in sheet metal form.They look like they weigh as much as the engine block
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#153207 - 11/19/08 07:16 AM Re: 1964 Max Wedge Tri-Y Exhaust Manifolds - Need Help! [Re: scatpacktom]
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Believe it or not they aren't that heavy (as compared to the other common style). The problem is that the pattern has to be dead nuts accurate or they won't fit, I need an original set to create accurate digital files, heck I wouldn't even need the manifolds to be in my possesion, I'd only need thier owner to deliver them to the digitizing company for the work which would only take a few days. Either way, I'm willing to do whatever it takes, these things need to get made!

A cast iron replica would be made.....Along with a (much) lighter steel tube version that will look identical in shape and contour, this will allow for modifications to the shape by heating and bending to allow them to fit into other cars not originally designed to accept them.

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#153208 - 11/19/08 07:37 AM Re: 1964 Max Wedge Tri-Y Exhaust Manifolds - Need Help! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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Hi Scott.
Here's another photo for you.
Have 5 more shots in my photo files.
Jim V.


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#153209 - 11/19/08 07:40 AM Re: 1964 Max Wedge Tri-Y Exhaust Manifolds - Need Help! [Re: hemi71x]
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Thanks Jim, I've seen those before, maybe here on Moparts? I think I saved them but if you have more feel free to post them. The pics I posted above are the only shots I've seen of a set actually installed in a car. I find it amazing that the factory actually cast those beasts in the first place!

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#153210 - 11/19/08 07:42 AM Re: 1964 Max Wedge Tri-Y Exhaust Manifolds - Need Help! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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Scott.
Gotta leave for work.
I'll post the others for the world to see tonight when i get home.
Jim V.
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#153211 - 11/19/08 08:07 AM Re: 1964 Max Wedge Tri-Y Exhaust Manifolds - Need Help! [Re: hemi71x]
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I always thought that Chrysler faked those manifolds and they were never produced. I swear I read they were made of wood!

Guess that was wrong!
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#153212 - 11/19/08 08:51 AM Re: 1964 Max Wedge Tri-Y Exhaust Manifolds - Need Help! [Re: Rug_Trucker]
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They are a thing of beauty
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#153213 - 11/19/08 10:30 AM Re: 1964 Max Wedge Tri-Y Exhaust Manifolds - Need Help! [Re: scatpacktom]
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They probably did make some early mock up sets from wood, I've seen other promo pics of them on engines (B&W) that appeared that way, but they eventually cast a few sets and a couple sets and a couple singles still exist.

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#153214 - 11/19/08 10:33 AM Re: 1964 Max Wedge Tri-Y Exhaust Manifolds - Need Help! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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Believe it or not they aren't that heavy (as compared to the other common style). The problem is that the pattern has to be dead nuts accurate or they won't fit, I need an original set to create accurate digital files, heck I wouldn't even need the manifolds to be in my possesion, I'd only need thier owner to deliver them to the digitizing company for the work which would only take a few days. Either way, I'm willing to do whatever it takes, these things need to get made!

A cast iron replica would be made.....Along with a (much) lighter steel tube version that will look identical in shape and contour, this will allow for modifications to the shape by heating and bending to allow them to fit into other cars not originally designed to accept them.





Have you actually ever had one of these manifolds in your hands? I have and its ALOT heavier then a normal MW manifold. THEY DO WEIGH A TON. i know a guy that has a whole exhaust and will see if hed be interested in helping you out. you see alot of the tri-y pipes at swap meets but they don't due any good without the manifolds
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#153215 - 11/19/08 10:37 AM Re: 1964 Max Wedge Tri-Y Exhaust Manifolds - Need Help! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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Interestingly, the only other Chrysler exhaust manifolds even remotely similar to these did actually make it into normal production, these are the 1963 Chrysler 300J 413 Short Ram manifolds, they have the same crudely cast appearance, are HUGE, heavy, and have some similar rectangular tube shapes (like the Tri-Y's above do) as opposed to round tubes as most other big block manifolds had.


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#153216 - 11/19/08 11:40 AM Re: 1964 Max Wedge Tri-Y Exhaust Manifolds - Need Help! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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Have you actually ever had one of these manifolds in your hands? I have and its ALOT heavier then a normal MW manifold. THEY DO WEIGH A TON. i know a guy that has a whole exhaust and will see if hed be interested in helping you out. you see alot of the tri-y pipes at swap meets but they don't due any good without the manifolds




I've only held one side of an original (at Carlisle in a swap spot YEARS ago), didn't seem that heavy to me, not that I care, I just want to get them made, any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated.


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#153217 - 11/19/08 12:31 PM Re: 1964 Max Wedge Tri-Y Exhaust Manifolds - Need Help! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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Wow, they look to be a really tight fit in the car.

I've always seen pics of them on an engine but never in the car.

I'd be up for a set of these if/when you get some made.

I'm really curious, though, as to the performance gains they have over the standard maxie manifolds.

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#153218 - 11/19/08 12:53 PM Re: 1964 Max Wedge Tri-Y Exhaust Manifolds - Need Help!
ScottSmith_Harms Offline
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I'm really curious, though, as to the performance gains they have over the standard maxie manifolds.






Who knows? Maybe none at all, maybe even less (but I doubt that) then there's the weight factor which is probably why they didn't make it to production, that added to the almost certain installation headaches.


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#153219 - 11/19/08 01:08 PM Re: 1964 Max Wedge Tri-Y Exhaust Manifolds - Need Help! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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I'm really curious, though, as to the performance gains they have over the standard maxie manifolds.






Who knows? Maybe none at all, maybe even less (but I doubt that) then there's the weight factor which is probably why they didn't make it to production, that added to the almost certain installation headaches.






Scott,
Not to be a negative nelly , But have you really thought this project thru as to it's viability?

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#153220 - 11/19/08 01:11 PM Re: 1964 Max Wedge Tri-Y Exhaust Manifolds - Need Help! [Re: gtx6970]
ScottSmith_Harms Offline
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Yes Bill I have, (been looking into it for a couple years now). Guess what? It's almost a certain loser concerning payback, but I am determined to see it through, sounds nutty huh? Truth is that I couldn't afford it without the help of a good friend who is better off than myself, he's willing to kick in to see it through as well.

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#153221 - 11/19/08 01:42 PM Re: 1964 Max Wedge Tri-Y Exhaust Manifolds - Need Help! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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Payback ? .. it depends on where they are being produced. There is A LOT of stuff being made these days that was not possible even ten years ago.

You thinking only USA ? ... I am doing a project right now(very small potatoes compared to yours) and I could have had the job done for about HALF of what it costs here.

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