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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam"
[Re: BulletBob]
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11/01/13 07:56 PM
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rrbrucea How interesting you deleted all your posts  That's BS that when the OP originally posted here you were one of the first to jump all over him calling his honesty into question. You continued with all the comments about all your good dealings with US Tools and how honest they are but you conveniently left out the fact that you have a business relationship with them. Once that little fact came to light it was obvious what your motivation was. I'm SURE you were treated with white gloves when your buddy John worked on your cars. Might be a different story when the customer sends money from a distance hoping he was dealing with an honest buisness.... As the post went on you continued to post false statements. Kudos to Mr. Mcandless for stating the facts about his employment with US Tool and your working relationship with them. You were right in stating in your final deleted post that you should not have commented on this post. Personally I think before you erase your tracks and head back to your corner you need to man up and give the OP an apology..... YOU WERE WRONG and to be honest you did a great deal of damage to John and US Tool's reputation.  I purchased a driveshaft loop from John for my Challenger a number of years ago and I think it's a quality part that fits great.....I actually need a couple more but I'm not sure if I'm gonna give him my business again or not.
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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam"
[Re: KillerBee]
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11/01/13 08:46 PM
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I just got the ok from the war department to spend some money, I did a search to see who has a good leaf spring relocation kit. U.S. Car Tool has some great looking stuff.
I don't need the headaches dealing with a possible scamming problem. Now, I have to find another vendor. Anyone suggestions?
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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam"
[Re: KillerBee]
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11/01/13 09:09 PM
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How interesting you deleted all your posts
That's BS that when the OP originally posted here you were one of the first to jump all over him calling his honesty into question.
You continued with all the comments about all your good dealings with US Tools and how honest they are but you conveniently left out the fact that you have a business relationship with them.
Once that little fact came to light it was obvious what your motivation was.
I'm SURE you were treated with white gloves when your buddy John worked on your cars.
Might be a different story when the customer sends money from a distance hoping he was dealing with an honest buisness....
As the post went on you continued to post false statements.
Kudos to Mr. Mcandless for stating the facts about his employment with US Tool and your working relationship with them.
You were right in stating in your final deleted post that you should not have commented on this post.
Personally I think before you erase your tracks and head back to your corner you need to man up and give the OP an apology..... YOU WERE WRONG and to be honest you did a great deal of damage to John and US Tool's reputation.
Don't hold your breath for the apology although it is due
Wait till this spreads to the other sites!
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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam"
[Re: migsBIG]
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11/01/13 09:24 PM
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Depends on what application your doing. Cass aka Dr Diff has a few nice ones. I have one, nice quality, need a few more items before I install it on my car.
In the new products sections, US Car Tool had an add for bolt in subframe connectors, and they went and deleted all their postings?
Best thing they could of done.
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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam"
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11/01/13 09:29 PM
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rrbrucea
How interesting you deleted all your posts
That's BS that when the OP originally posted here you were one of the first to jump all over him calling his honesty into question.
You continued with all the comments about all your good dealings with US Tools and how honest they are but you conveniently left out the fact that you have a business relationship with them.
Once that little fact came to light it was obvious what your motivation was.
I'm SURE you were treated with white gloves when your buddy John worked on your cars.
Might be a different story when the customer sends money from a distance hoping he was dealing with an honest buisness....
As the post went on you continued to post false statements.
Kudos to Mr. Mcandless for stating the facts about his employment with US Tool and your working relationship with them.
You were right in stating in your final deleted post that you should not have commented on this post.
Personally I think before you erase your tracks and head back to your corner you need to man up and give the OP an apology..... YOU WERE WRONG and to be honest you did a great deal of damage to John and US Tool's reputation.
Don't hold your breath for the apology although it is due
Wait till this spreads to the other sites!
Ya I doubt the apology will happen but I'm sure John is working on those 50 or so refunds....I heard he hired a new employee with refund experience. 
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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam"
[Re: Fig]
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11/01/13 09:54 PM
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I just got the ok from the war department to spend some money, I did a search to see who has a good leaf spring relocation kit. U.S. Car Tool has some great looking stuff.
I don't need the headaches dealing with a possible scamming problem. Now, I have to find another vendor. Anyone suggestions?
Another vote for Cass/Dr.Diff… Great rep and solid, timely service 
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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam"
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11/01/13 09:59 PM
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I don't have a horse in this race so I don't know who is in the right and who isn't, as we only have half the story. On the one hand the poster said he asked for his money back, on the other it appears US Car Tool may have offered people their money back in an email that was posted...from 2009? So who knows. But I can comment on the BBB as I deal with them on a daily basis. First, the BBB does not decide who is right or who is wrong. They simply want to verify that both parties are working to resolve an issue. When a complaint comes in they will notify the business and ask that they respond in a certain timeframe, usually 10 days. Most responsible businesses will respond in that timeframe with a review or resolution to the issue. My company responds directly to the complainant to avoid reliving the issue public ally, however some businesses choose to post directly to th BBB website. However I think that is a bit unprofessional, however the BBB doesn't care which path you take as long as you are trying to fairly work with the complainant. Some complaints results in the persons favor and some times it doesnt. What I can tell you is that we have a AAA rating and going to the BBB or other agency does not sway our position. So in response to the original issue it is concerning that the BBB failed to receive a response from the company. Therefore they gave an F rating. At the very least the BBB expected a response even if it was not favorable.
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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam"
[Re: BulletBob]
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11/01/13 11:30 PM
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"The OP came here for support & was basically called a liar" IMO its comments like the above that make this a feeding frenzy, unfortunately I can't review/refer to all the recently deleted replies, but i pretty sure NO ONE called anybody a liar, implications don't count as they are very subjective. That is a pretty serious accusation to be tossing around without some solid proof. Some seem to take stock in we have only heard one side, others don't seem to care, and EVERYBODY agrees the money should be returned, but everybody is divided so far on whether there should a stake burning or a lynching. And anybody who thinks I am a fan of US Tools is totally clueless.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam"
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11/01/13 11:47 PM
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I don't think anyone claimed lies, more like healthy skepticism, initially. First post on the site was the start of this thread.
Since that first post things have come to light that are very interesting.
They say there are no such thing as a stupid question.
They say there is always the exception that proves the rule.
Don't be the exception.
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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam"
[Re: Supercuda]
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11/02/13 03:43 AM
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I wish everyone would do the right thing and let this go away, this is no good for anyone. BUT I know the original posters next step all I have to say is get the popcorn. John or Chris mail this guy a check and admit you made a mistake. And Chris and John were made aware of this thread the minute it went up by another poster.
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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam"
[Re: jcc]
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11/02/13 11:09 AM
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"The OP came here for support & was basically called a liar"
IMO its comments like the above that make this a feeding frenzy, unfortunately I can't review/refer to all the recently deleted replies, but i pretty sure NO ONE called anybody a liar, implications don't count as they are very subjective. That is a pretty serious accusation to be tossing around without some solid proof. Some seem to take stock in we have only heard one side, others don't seem to care, and EVERYBODY agrees the money should be returned, but everybody is divided so far on whether there should a stake burning or a lynching. And anybody who thinks I am a fan of US Tools is totally clueless.
When the OP had his credibility attacked over his claim with the remarks & insinuations that were made to him then basically he was called a liar
I don't how well you understand the english language but words have meanings comprised of other words.
Now when you group enough statements together they form a meaning also
This is called IMPLICATION
Now do you understand the statement "basically called a liar"?
Hell, most thought this was over $50
That's how much people read into this
Apparently you didn't read it that well either
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I have read worse for 2 people getting ripped off. John has obviously read this post and choses to ignore the fact he needs to make this right to everyone who fronted him money. So I would say it's fair for those who do not have their head up his azz to ignore his products/services until things are made right. 