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Re: Rev-N-Ator [Re: ademon] #1522957
10/25/13 12:03 PM
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A few years ago,yes. Now they are imported junk like everything else. Not sure if its true or not but rumours at one time said that's what Don at FBO was using but he had to go a different direction when they changed who made them.
I have tried several over the counter control units with no luck. I was thinking there would be something decent without a rev limiter bit have had no luck.
Keith

Re: Rev-N-Ator [Re: ademon] #1522958
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The standard motor products (LX101 iirc) was the gold standard for good parts house boxes. I bought one the other day & to my dismay it said made in china in big bold letters.


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Re: Rev-N-Ator [Re: 70duster340] #1522959
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Re: Rev-N-Ator [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1522960
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If you have an ignition that pulls dwell,tune around it,then change to a system with a better dwell curve you will need to change things...



Not sure I understand what you mean, can you please explain?


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Re: Rev-N-Ator [Re: Swedcharger67] #1522961
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Our older cars used points,the time the points are closed is called dwell. A big gap gave short dwell,A small gap gave larger dwell. Then we went to an ignition control module to open and close the circuit without points that would wear.
Most ICU s have a set dwell period. If the dwell falls off due to electronics not being able to control it,timing also falls off as dwell directly affects timing .
If you ignition was to pull timing at a certain rpm,most likely a tuner would try to compensate by adding mechanical or vacuum advance .
Now you unplug that ignition and plug in a new one that does not pull out dwell(timing) and it acts like you have added more total timing at that point.
Thats why we need to recheck timing with different boxes Reverse polarity on an MSD systems pick-up coil sometime and watch

Re: Rev-N-Ator [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1522962
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Whoops,should say watch what happens. Different systems pick-up the signal from the pick-up coil differently.
Keith

Re: Rev-N-Ator [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1522963
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Good grounding is very important. You can't have too many grounds.

A properly phased distributor is required.
It makes a difference...

Re: Rev-N-Ator [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1522964
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keith, have you ever found what coil seems to work best with the Rev-n-ator box? i've tried my best to keep up with the threads but my eyes glaze over with all the repeat threads here and on the other Mopar sites.

Re: Rev-N-Ator [Re: mikemee1331] #1522965
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keith, have you ever found what coil seems to work best with the Rev-n-ator box? i've tried my best to keep up with the threads but my eyes glaze over with all the repeat threads here and on the other Mopar sites.




These are tough threads to follow.

Keith, could you please list your preference in regards to all these different systems?

The rev limiter aside, where do you place the rev-n-ator among the plug and pray chrysler boxes?
Please.


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Re: Rev-N-Ator [Re: mikemee1331] #1522966
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Not that I want to answer for someone else, but when I bought mine from Mancini Racing at Carlisle they recommended the Blaster 2 coil, which I picked up as well. I swapped both at the same time.


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Re: Rev-N-Ator [Re: dobie] #1522967
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I also run the blaster 2 with mine!


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Re: Rev-N-Ator [Re: dobie] #1522968
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Not that I want to answer for someone else, but when I bought mine from Mancini Racing at Carlisle they recommended the Blaster 2 coil, which I picked up as well. I swapped both at the same time.


i thought i had read that too but i wasn't sure if it came from Keith doing an actual dyno run or if it came posters saying they were using one. i was also curious about any e-coil testing.

Re: Rev-N-Ator [Re: mikemee1331] #1522969
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In this world of high-tech computers and programmers for Mustangs, 'Vettes, etc., why can't we get a simple ignition box that can be monitored with a laptop computer and be able to make some adjustments? There really should be no mystery here.

Re: Rev-N-Ator [Re: mikemee1331] #1522970
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As of right now,a Blaster2 seems to be the best choice as far as canister coils are concerned . I actually had my best results with a Mallory Promaster 29440.
Troy is supposed to be sending some coils my way to test as well as a new upgraded version of the Rev N Nator that should take care of the issues you guys are describing.
Keith

Re: Rev-N-Ator [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1522971
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What about a blaster 3? Is there much difference between 2 & 3? My 29440 had crapped out and the local speed shop only had a blaster 3. It seems to work well.

Re: Rev-N-Ator [Re: MPerry] #1522972
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Yes,the blaster3 runs the same,same specifications,just has the taller tower.
Keith

Re: Rev-N-Ator [Re: a12superbee] #1522973
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Even if it didn't have the limiter,the Rev N Nator runs Bette. I have been trying to find a box that performs as well without a limiter with no luck yet. I ran a Chrome box for several years along with an add on limiter but the cost of the two now is at least as much as a Rev N Nator and doesn't perform as well.
Keith

Re: Rev-N-Ator [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1522974
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Quote:

Even if it didn't have the limiter,the Rev N Nator runs Bette. I have been trying to find a box that performs as well without a limiter with no luck yet. I ran a Chrome box for several years along with an add on limiter but the cost of the two now is at least as much as a Rev N Nator and doesn't perform as well.
Keith




Thank you. It looked as though that's what you were saying but wanted to be sure.


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Re: Rev-N-Ator [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1522975
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thanks Keith!

Re: Rev-N-Ator [Re: mikemee1331] #1522976
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I certainly hope that nobody here believes that I started this thread to bash the Rev-N-ator. I just wanted opinions about how it held up to other ignition systems. I chose the GM HEI because I have read good things about that particular modification. Gotta be careful about where I spend the bucks. Not too much to go around these days.

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