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Re: Introduction and Looking For Some Advice [Re: MrBelvedere2] #1521144
10/26/13 08:18 PM
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Dreaming of the 808
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I think you need to sell me that truck. I've been looking for one like that for a long time!!!




I love this old girl, I plan on keeping her for a long time.


69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.
Re: Introduction and Looking For Some Advice [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #1521145
10/27/13 02:11 AM
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If I was going to the trouble of putting an automatic behind that flathead I would be going with an A500 OD.

Kevin

Re: Introduction and Looking For Some Advice [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #1521146
10/27/13 02:25 AM
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I know it's a slippery slope when you start fixing them up. I enjoy the truck the way it is, but I sure like the looks of a street rod pick up. This one is so original, it makes it a tough call. Maybe I could do an automatic and leave the rest alone.

I even have the entire history of the truck from the bill of sale and letter from the president of the dealership thanking the buyer for the purchase, to tow bills from when it broke down in the 40's and fifties.

I found a torqeflite from a fifties hemi locally, will that bolt up without an adapter plate and still be able to run the 6v system? It looks like the starter is in the same place from what I can see.

Thanks

Re: Introduction and Looking For Some Advice [Re: jingro] #1521147
10/27/13 08:18 AM
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The transmission would work, but you would need the 6 Cylinder bellhousing, and I believe they also used a spacer plate. It would be cable shifted so you would also need to figure that out.

As light as the truck is I might consider using finding a 2 speed Powerflight rather than the 3 speed Torqueflight. The Powerflights were also air cooled (which would eliminate the need for cooling lines).


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Re: Introduction and Looking For Some Advice [Re: Mike P] #1521148
10/27/13 01:38 PM
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I'd suggest looking at the P-15, D-24 site for a bunch of answers about updating an older Mopar.
They dig original, but also discuss such things as brakes, electrical, drivetrains, etc.

I understand wanting it to be more reliable and safe on modern roads, but I'd really try to keep as much stock as possible.

Re: Introduction and Looking For Some Advice [Re: jingro] #1521150
10/28/13 11:46 AM
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Jingro, if you want a street rod then why not sell this one and buy one that has already been modified? If not then do whatever makes you happy with this one, these trucks are rare but even restored 100% the don't bring big money. This truck a 1937 is for sale right here on Moparts for 15K

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69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.
Re: Introduction and Looking For Some Advice [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #1521151
10/28/13 11:33 PM
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Original or restored is OK if you only want to drive them in a parade. If you intend on driving it more often, or on the highways, a brake upgrade and a rear axle change is (or should be) the minimum standard. If you want add an automatic trans, upgrading to 12 volts is another logical step. If you have the space, keep the original stuff so you can later, or whoever gets it next can return it to stock if that is their thing. You're not planning anything that can't easily be undone. As far as value is concerned, mild upgrades like you considering will likely add value over stone stock for anyone except the hard core numbers guy. Most people are going to like the idea of getting something that looks old but can be driven any time they want. Personally, I'd change the wheels and tires too.

Of the original gauges, everything except the fuel gauge is mechanical, voltage will not have any effect on them. The amp gauge will be showing a wider needle swing with 12 volts then it did with 6 volts, but should be OK. Change the gauge lighting to 12 volts or add a voltage reducer and take care of that fuel gauge and everything should be wonderful. Gene

Re: Introduction and Looking For Some Advice [Re: poorboy] #1521152
10/28/13 11:37 PM
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Original or restored is OK if you only want to drive them in a parade. If you intend on driving it more often, or on the highways, a brake upgrade and a rear axle change is (or should be) the minimum standard. If you want add an automatic trans, upgrading to 12 volts is another logical step. If you have the space, keep the original stuff so you can later, or whoever gets it next can return it to stock if that is their thing. You're not planning anything that can't easily be undone. As far as value is concerned, mild upgrades like you considering will likely add value over stone stock for anyone except the hard core numbers guy. Most people are going to like the idea of getting something that looks old but can be driven any time they want. Personally, I'd change the wheels and tires too.

Of the original gauges, everything except the fuel gauge is mechanical, voltage will not have any effect on them. The amp gauge will be showing a wider needle swing with 12 volts then it did with 6 volts, but should be OK. Change the gauge lighting to 12 volts or add a voltage reducer and take care of that fuel gauge and everything should be wonderful. Gene




That's exactly why I bought mine, looks old but has a more modern drivetrain with 12 volt conversion. This is a Dodge but this is the look I'm eventually shooting for, bad azz

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69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.
Re: Introduction and Looking For Some Advice [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #1521153
10/29/13 09:07 PM
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Perfectly restored it still isn't worth much. It'll never be.
For driving around a small town it'd be the cat's meow. But get it on the highway and you'll be the slow car that has a line of cars caught behind it.

That flathead six has two strikes on it already. It's small, as engines go, and makes little power. It was known in my neighborhood as an engine that had problems with the crankshaft.

Do a sensible job of hot rodding it and its value doubles. I'd suggest a 5.2 Mag with a-500 overdrive and a rear gear around 3.23.

I believe the mustangII front suspension from an aftermarket source would fit better than the Dakota swap, and for a rear possibly a ford 8.8 with disk brakes to get disks all around. Then you'd have the choice of whether to add air conditioning or not.

It'll weigh less than 3000 lb and get good mileage, be fun to drive and be able to keep up with traffic on the Interstate.

That's my prescription.

R.

Re: Introduction and Looking For Some Advice [Re: dogdays] #1521154
10/29/13 09:55 PM
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Not that small, just old tech. Low compression, long stroke, soft crank that doesn't like high rpm, poor manifolding, valve in block flathead. But it makes good low end torque so if you added an OD to the existing trans it'd be better on the highway. If you got ambitious a small turbo with low boost would help, alot.

As for the OD, back int he 50's Chrysler had an optional OD unit that would bolt on to the existing three speed by replacing the tail shaft housing and other parts. If you could find one of those it would bolt up to the 37's, it's electrically operated.


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Re: Introduction and Looking For Some Advice [Re: Supercuda] #1521155
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Boy, those are a couple of nice looking trucks. Thanks for all the feedback guys. For now, I am going to leave it alone and enjoy it. I do see making it a driver in the future, but it is so cool like it is now, I hate to mess with it.

In the last couple of weeks I've had 3 guys want to buy it and had an old guy at Home Depot tell me all about the one he grew up with on his Dad's farm. He had me in the parking lot for 20 minutes looking it over and sitting in it. I was going to let him drive it, but his wife put an end to that idea. That's never happened with any of my muscle cars.

I just picked up a 1953 Plymouth station wagon, now maybe that one I could turn into a rod.

Re: Introduction and Looking For Some Advice [Re: jingro] #1521156
11/07/13 03:50 AM
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Boy, those are a couple of nice looking trucks. Thanks for all the feedback guys. For now, I am going to leave it alone and enjoy it. I do see making it a driver in the future, but it is so cool like it is now, I hate to mess with it.

In the last couple of weeks I've had 3 guys want to buy it and had an old guy at Home Depot tell me all about the one he grew up with on his Dad's farm. He had me in the parking lot for 20 minutes looking it over and sitting in it. I was going to let him drive it, but his wife put an end to that idea. That's never happened with any of my muscle cars.

I just picked up a 1953 Plymouth station wagon, now maybe that one I could turn into a rod.




congrats on your free super hard to find plymouth truck,,some oen must be looking out for you,,,,,

that black 37/38 is sweet as well is the red street rod truck,,,and i dont even like red lol


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