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Re: Borgeson Stering Box [Re: 72Swinger] #1519658
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FWIW my small spline is just like the one pictured above.




which pic?

hey dan did you get around to installing the pitman on yet?

Re: Borgeson Stering Box [Re: dangina] #1519659
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Re: Borgeson Stering Box [Re: dangina] #1519660
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FWIW my small spline is just like the one pictured above.




which pic?

hey dan did you get around to installing the pitman on yet?




Been buried with stuff today, just got to it. Unfortunately, large sector box, small sector pitman.

Re: Borgeson Stering Box [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1519661
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Been buried with stuff today, just got to it. Unfortunately, large sector box, small sector pitman.




doh! was hoping to get the bottom of this

Re: Borgeson Stering Box [Re: dangina] #1519662
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can anyone with a large sector installed chime in? still no word from boregson.




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Re: Borgeson Stering Box [Re: dangina] #1519663
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can anyone with a large sector installed chime in? still no word from boregson.




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Not cool!

Wonder if Dan got to try his out yet? It was his birthday a couple days ago and he has been busy at the autocross track. So he has been busy! Dan how is the new engine?

Re: Borgeson Stering Box [Re: brads70] #1519664
04/07/14 11:26 AM
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can anyone with a large sector installed chime in? still no word from boregson.




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Not cool!

Wonder if Dan got to try his out yet? It was his birthday a couple days ago and he has been busy at the autocross track. So he has been busy! Dan how is the new engine?




I don't even want to talk about that. The machinist is coming to the shop to make a housecall today. I put the Road Runner in the back of the shop and put a car cover on it Friday. Co-Drove the R&D 65 Mustang at the SCCA National Tour over the weekend. Road Runner will most likely not be making it to Vegas this year.
As to the sector/arm issue, I'll see if I can get something figured out this week.

Re: Borgeson Stering Box [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1519665
04/07/14 12:54 PM
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can anyone with a large sector installed chime in? still no word from boregson.




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Not cool!

Wonder if Dan got to try his out yet? It was his birthday a couple days ago and he has been busy at the autocross track. So he has been busy! Dan how is the new engine?




I don't even want to talk about that. The machinist is coming to the shop to make a housecall today. I put the Road Runner in the back of the shop and put a car cover on it Friday. Co-Drove the R&D 65 Mustang at the SCCA National Tour over the weekend. Road Runner will most likely not be making it to Vegas this year.
As to the sector/arm issue, I'll see if I can get something figured out this week.




yuck not fun! Been there...

Re: Borgeson Stering Box [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1519666
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can anyone with a large sector installed chime in? still no word from boregson.




Bumping this question again. No reply back from boregson




Not cool!

Wonder if Dan got to try his out yet? It was his birthday a couple days ago and he has been busy at the autocross track. So he has been busy! Dan how is the new engine?




I don't even want to talk about that. The machinist is coming to the shop to make a housecall today. I put the Road Runner in the back of the shop and put a car cover on it Friday. Co-Drove the R&D 65 Mustang at the SCCA National Tour over the weekend. Road Runner will most likely not be making it to Vegas this year.
As to the sector/arm issue, I'll see if I can get something figured out this week.


What did you put together for an engine Dan?


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Re: Borgeson Stering Box [Re: dangina] #1519667
04/07/14 03:31 PM
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can anyone with a large sector installed chime in? still no word from boregson.




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I've got the large sector. Don't remember which brand pitman I put on it, but it's a regular auto parts store part.

My engagement isn't much better than yours. I believe I had to thread the nut without the washer, cinch it up, pulled it off, then barely got the nut to thread with the lock washer. The shaft doesn't make it out of the nut on mine. Shouldn't be a safety issue, as it hasn't moved in 6 track days. Ya'll have me curious now if it could cause any bumpsteer issues.


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Re: Borgeson Stering Box [Re: Uhcoog1] #1519668
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Maybe the issue is simply not enough threads? FWIW my small spline box has 1" of threads and the stock pitman is between 11/16 and 3/4" thick.

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Re: Borgeson Stering Box [Re: Uhcoog1] #1519669
04/07/14 08:49 PM
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can anyone with a large sector installed chime in? still no word from boregson.




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I've got the large sector. Don't remember which brand pitman I put on it, but it's a regular auto parts store part.

My engagement isn't much better than yours. I believe I had to thread the nut without the washer, cinch it up, pulled it off, then barely got the nut to thread with the lock washer. The shaft doesn't make it out of the nut on mine. Shouldn't be a safety issue, as it hasn't moved in 6 track days. Ya'll have me curious now if it could cause any bumpsteer issues.




Thanks for the reply - I had to do the exact same thing put nut on first, cinch it up, then pull it off to put the lock washer and nut back on. You can see in mine that the nut also doesn't make it all the way through, just glad to here that I'm not the only one, should have went with small sector, looks like the better fit

Re: Borgeson Stering Box [Re: dangina] #1519670
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I's sure like to see this sorted out? Looks like I'll keep my FF box for another season at least.

Re: Borgeson Stering Box [Re: brads70] #1519671
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I have read all the comments. I was curious and decided to call Borgesons customer service department and ask some questions about the issues described. The Borgeson employee was quote "unaware of the k member interference issue" and "unaware of the newest mentioned problem of the large shaft pitman arm washer, nut, fit". Very curious, not good. She said she would call me back, surprise, she did not! Its great that members are trying to fix this issue themselves but its the manufactures responsibility to own up to and fix problems like this quickly. Moparts members call Borgeson 860-482-8283 for your fellow Moparts members that have bought this product and lets fix the problem.

Re: Borgeson Stering Box [Re: dangina] #1519672
04/16/14 10:28 AM
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can anyone with a large sector installed chime in? still no word from boregson.




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Did you ever hear back?

Re: Borgeson Stering Box [Re: 1fastabody] #1519673
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never heard back - seeing how the only other person with a big sector experinced the same problem it looks like it might be that way for all of them. Lesson here: buy the small sector

Re: Borgeson Stering Box [Re: dangina] #1519674
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never heard back - seeing how the only other person with a big sector experinced the same problem it looks like it might be that way for all of them. Lesson here: buy the small sector




Well that sucks that they never responded, not good customer service. They could have at least sent a email saying they would look into it.

Re: Borgeson Stering Box [Re: 1fastabody] #1519675
04/17/14 11:36 AM
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never heard back - seeing how the only other person with a big sector experinced the same problem it looks like it might be that way for all of them. Lesson here: buy the small sector




Well that sucks that they never responded, not good customer service. They could have at least sent a email saying they would look into it.




he only did that one time and said I had enough thread engagement, maybe they think its not an issue worth looking into?

Re: Borgeson Stering Box [Re: 1fastabody] #1519676
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Any chance that the large sector pitman-arms are slightly thicker in height perhaps?
I recall having used a manual steering pitman arm from a Dodge which fit the smallsector Borgbox nicely.

This mockup pic is with the pitman arm just pushed on the splines by hand;


Re: Borgeson Stering Box [Re: BigBlockMopar] #1519677
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OK, dumb question here...

Small sector 67 and older

large sector 68 and newer. Is this correct??

The small sector steering arms are about double in price last time I had to buy one..

Again assuming my question is correct, I would buy a large sector box to upgrade newer in my car.. Just my opinion

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