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Torqueflite vs Glide #1511989 10/03/13 08:41 PM 10/03/13 08:41 PM
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 151 North Eastern New York State montessa OP member
montessa OP member Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 151 North Eastern New York State	I know this won't be very popular but I am considering changing over to a Powerglide. I would like to hear from guys whom had made the switch and what their results were. My car is 3700lbs and runs low nines. I have some Chrysler buddies that also bracket race that have made the switch with positive results. However, their cars are a lot lighter than mine. I think that the car will lose some time due to the taller first gear. I also know that the glide will be more consistent. How much time do you think is on the table? Comments?

Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: montessa] #1511990 10/03/13 09:11 PM 10/03/13 09:11 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,839 MI, usa dvw master
dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,839 MI, usa	Quote: I know this won't be very popular but I am considering changing over to a Powerglide. I would like to hear from guys whom had made the switch and what their results were. My car is 3700lbs and runs low nines. I have some Chrysler buddies that also bracket race that have made the switch with positive results. However, their cars are a lot lighter than mine. I think that the car will lose some time due to the taller first gear. I also know that the glide will be more consistent. How much time do you think is on the table? Comments? I believe my car is a similar combo to yours except its a cross ram w/ eddy 750s. Your car is both heavier and faster than mine (9.27@146.6, 3340). Why a glide? Mine doesn't spin at all. 10.5x31W ,4.10 If anything I think I could use more gear. My overall starting line ratio is 10.45. 1.80 glide w/4.56 would be 8.23. I think it would slow it up early. Mine ave 1.32-1.36 60 3.80-3.85 330. Pretty sluggish in the early portion of the run. However its a good bracket car and easy on the motor in the lights. Doug 7875248-milan.jpg (142 downloads)

Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: dvw] #1511991 10/03/13 09:46 PM 10/03/13 09:46 PM
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 151 North Eastern New York State montessa OP member
montessa OP member Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 151 North Eastern New York State	Dvw, traction is not my issue. Ever since I put ladder bars on the car traction is not the problem. However, reliability has been slipping. That is reason for checking out a glide.

Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: montessa] #1511992 10/03/13 10:01 PM 10/03/13 10:01 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 644 Minnesota Barnstorm mopar
Barnstorm mopar Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 644 Minnesota	Post a timeslip to get many comments The little old lady from Pasadena is back!

Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: montessa] #1511993 10/03/13 10:03 PM 10/03/13 10:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,448 Phoenix, AZ M MoparBilly master
MoparBilly master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,448 Phoenix, AZ	Explain "Reliability has been slipping"...I've ran Glides for years in lighter cars, and consistency with a glide requires rebuilds on a regular basis. "Livin' in a powder keg and givin' off sparks" 4 Street cars, 5 Race engines

Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: Barnstorm] #1511994 10/03/13 10:48 PM 10/03/13 10:48 PM
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 151 North Eastern New York State montessa OP member
montessa OP member Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 151 North Eastern New York State	My best was 9.08 at 147mph last year in the fall with mine shaft air and a big tail wind. I make somewhere around 80 to 100 passes a year. The motor dynoed at 910HP and 810Torque. I am just trying to see what kind of experiences other guys are having with similar setups. How many runs are you guys getting before tear downs? What is breaking and what kind of mods does your torqueflite have? Mine has an aluminum drum, steel plantaries, rear bearing support and hardened input shaft.

Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: montessa] #1511995 10/04/13 12:18 AM 10/04/13 12:18 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,839 MI, usa dvw master
dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,839 MI, usa	Though mine has some old super stock aluminum parts. Input and output shafts, planet carriers (3 pin), low roller(sprag) are all stock. 95 passes so far this year. Doug

Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: dvw] #1511996 10/04/13 01:58 AM 10/04/13 01:58 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY HEMIFRED master
HEMIFRED master Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY	bone stock glide 1.76 internals 5 disc drum, t/b valve body. 4 years with 6,000 plus launches ZERO parts no failures, unit cost about 500. total. 1.25 60' 8.58 et home of the Sox and Martin Hemi Duster

Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: montessa] #1511997 10/04/13 07:45 AM 10/04/13 07:45 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,000 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart I Live Here
gregsdart I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,000 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	I have always run a Torqueflite, but it wasn't easy making it consistent. If your goal is winning bracket races, and that is more important, go glide if you want to. It really is helpful in consistency due to one shift, and that one being down track far enough that it is easier to hit the exact rpm. The 727 takes more power to turn, so there is some trade off there, and that combined with too much starting line ratio for fast cars is probably why some say the glide is faster, some say it is slower. It really depends on the power curve, weight, tires, etc. If a car has 1000 hp and weighs 2500 lbs, it would be a real bear to get it off the line cleanly with a Torqueflite with a 2.45 low gear. I don't worry about what others think about what i do; none of them write the checks, I do. And I bet, so do you. 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: HEMIFRED] #1511998 10/04/13 11:45 AM 10/04/13 11:45 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 487 Charleston, SC S SCDaytona mopar
SCDaytona mopar S Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 487 Charleston, SC	Quote: bone stock glide 1.76 internals 5 disc drum, t/b valve body. 4 years with 6,000 plus launches ZERO parts no failures, unit cost about 500. total. 1.25 60' 8.58 et Are you sure about the 6000 passes? 6000 passes over 4 yrs is 1500 per year average. That's a lot of passes per year.

Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: SCDaytona] #1511999 10/04/13 12:08 PM 10/04/13 12:08 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,360 Mobile Alabama S SB412DUSTER top fuel
SB412DUSTER top fuel S Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,360 Mobile Alabama	Quote: Quote: bone stock glide 1.76 internals 5 disc drum, t/b valve body. 4 years with 6,000 plus launches ZERO parts no failures, unit cost about 500. total. 1.25 60' 8.58 et Are you sure about the 6000 passes? 6000 passes over 4 yrs is 1500 per year average. That's a lot of passes per year. He may be talking about the rpm he launches at instead of how many runs

Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: SB412DUSTER] #1512000 10/04/13 12:32 PM 10/04/13 12:32 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY HEMIFRED master
HEMIFRED master Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY	Quote: Quote: Quote: bone stock glide 1.76 internals 5 disc drum, t/b valve body. 4 years with 6,000 plus launches ZERO parts no failures, unit cost about 500. total. 1.25 60' 8.58 et Are you sure about the 6000 passes? 6000 passes over 4 yrs is 1500 per year average. That's a lot of passes per year. He may be talking about the rpm he launches at instead of how many runs correct thank you home of the Sox and Martin Hemi Duster

Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: HEMIFRED] #1512001 10/04/13 09:49 PM 10/04/13 09:49 PM
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 151 North Eastern New York State montessa OP member
montessa OP member Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 151 North Eastern New York State	Fred, what kind of difference in performance did you have when you changed from 3 speed to glide? I am assuming that you did run a torqueflite at one time. Also how much does your car weigh? Thanks Jim.

Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: montessa] #1512002 10/04/13 10:39 PM 10/04/13 10:39 PM
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 24 Central PA BartonHemi member
BartonHemi member Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 24 Central PA	ATI glide since 98, almost 3000 (yes) passes. 1 planatary explosion, killed the dana 60 and driveshaft on the line. Sounded like the devil right next to me. Current converter is @ 350 passes, it's done after next week. Best 60 ft 1.24, best et 8.47 @ 159. Racepac shows converter a 1.08 in the lights. 16 race wins since 07. NEVER won a race with a Torqueflite. I'm sure it's slower but it's my racing friend. I run the old one way safety clutch so when you come off the gas it returns to idle. Not very popular but it's saved me motor damage mulitple times. Wouldn't leave home without it. HTH HJ Only 3 failures to my log book. Killer service from me all year and rebuilds from Scott's Transmissions in PA. An ATI dealer Last edited by BartonHemi; 10/04/13 10:42 PM.

Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: montessa] #1512003 10/05/13 12:19 PM 10/05/13 12:19 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY HEMIFRED master
HEMIFRED master Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY	Quote: Fred, what kind of difference in performance did you have when you changed from 3 speed to glide? I am assuming that you did run a torqueflite at one time. Also how much does your car weigh? Thanks Jim. never ran a 3 speed. my car weighs about 2500. home of the Sox and Martin Hemi Duster

Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: HEMIFRED] #1512004 10/05/13 03:28 PM 10/05/13 03:28 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 970 Backwater, PA B bwdst6 Bob George Racing #1 Fan
bwdst6 Bob George Racing #1 Fan B Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 970 Backwater, PA	Quote: Quote: Fred, what kind of difference in performance did you have when you changed from 3 speed to glide? I am assuming that you did run a torqueflite at one time. Also how much does your car weigh? Thanks Jim. never ran a 3 speed. my car weighs about 2500. Wow that's light!!!! Anyway, if you want a transmission with less rotational inertia but still being a "mopar" you can always go the Pro-Flight. Costs a lot, though. This post is available in double vision where drunk.

Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: bwdst6] #1512005 10/05/13 08:03 PM 10/05/13 08:03 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY HEMIFRED master
HEMIFRED master Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY	I also run a glide in my turbo hemi road runner. it's an ATI unit with a lock-up conveter. cost 10,999.99 home of the Sox and Martin Hemi Duster

Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: HEMIFRED] #1512006 10/05/13 08:55 PM 10/05/13 08:55 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 970 Backwater, PA B bwdst6 Bob George Racing #1 Fan
bwdst6 Bob George Racing #1 Fan B Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 970 Backwater, PA	Just think of how cheap it would be if the entire car was GM parts! This post is available in double vision where drunk.

Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: bwdst6] #1512007 10/05/13 10:48 PM 10/05/13 10:48 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 6,780 Alabama Mopar-Al master
Mopar-Al master Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 6,780 Alabama	It doesnt have to be all mopar. I run a glide in mine to. Run a 727 in the cuda though

Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: bwdst6] #1512008 10/05/13 10:48 PM 10/05/13 10:48 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY HEMIFRED master
HEMIFRED master Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY	Quote: Just think of how cheap it would be if the entire car was GM parts! like a top fuel motor not a single GM part in my transmission. Being the MOPAR purist that you are which Mopar transmission that is capable of handling close to 3,000 HP would you recommend? 727 or 904 home of the Sox and Martin Hemi Duster

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