Re: Organisol hood treatment and call outs
[Re: TrueTripleX]
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10/02/13 12:58 PM
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Is the organisol finish much different then flat black?
"It takes a Mopar to catch a Mopar!"
1969 Charger R/T 440
1969 Road Runner 383
1970 Cuda 440
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Re: Organisol hood treatment and call outs
[Re: 69rrgrabber]
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10/02/13 07:12 PM
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Is the organisol finish much different then flat black?
Totally different shade and texture. It's not a flat finish. It's very deep black and in the sun, it looks like a zillion small diamonds glittering on the finish. Pictures simply cannot capture the beauty of this finish.
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Re: Organisol hood treatment and call outs
[Re: moparcanuk]
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10/02/13 09:04 PM
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Ok I'm sold! Where do I find it and what is the secret to spraying it?
"It takes a Mopar to catch a Mopar!"
1969 Charger R/T 440
1969 Road Runner 383
1970 Cuda 440
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Re: Organisol hood treatment and call outs
[Re: moparcanuk]
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10/03/13 06:37 AM
10/03/13 06:37 AM
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Your painter did a great job. I tried the Roger Gibson Organisol lacquer a few years back, and could not get it to look right. Then I brought it to a friend who owns a body shop (Mopar guy) and he had the same problem. We had the Chrysler bulletin on how to spray it. Still looked to shiny. I had to resort to using DCC9355 PPG urethane with some texture and flattening agent added. Your car looks great! Here is a "photobucket" with descriptions on my experience. http://s657.photobucket.com/user/Jim-2/library/?sort=9&page=1
69 Roadrunner 383 stock
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Re: Organisol hood treatment and call outs
[Re: moparcanuk]
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10/04/13 08:11 AM
10/04/13 08:11 AM
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Organisol Black Revised 11-2010 DDL9355 PPG This paint is still available, the texture is different from NOS but it's close enough.
Disclaimer: I am no expert, but I am a painter and I have done my fair share of wresting with this paint. I have no experience putting DDL9355 over catalyzed paints as I was taught the arts when lacquer and enamel were all we had. When I paint it now it’s always on a primer or black lacquer surface The problem I see is this lacquer paint wants to be put in wet and thin which means a lot of solvent will try to bite into the enamel or urethane surface it’s being applied to.
NOTE: You must lay the paint down wet or the texture will stand up instead of lay down and you will have an extremely rough finish that attracts everything.
Paint surfaces horizontal if possible
Use the slowest thinner and add some retarder as well if it is above 80 degrees. If possible use over black primer like DP90
Patience.
Allow surfaces to dry for at least 30 days before painting cover coats. This is important. Works best over a black painted surface Black DP90 is ok
Put 2 light but wet cover coats of semi gloss black lacquer over colored primers Allow to dry at least 24 hrs or more before organosoling,
Use a gun with a big tip 1.8mm or larger
Cross coat the large area surfaces in 3 directions –eliminates streaking of texture diag first, short length, long length with large overlapping passes. It must go on wet! Hello it must go on wet!
Test spray before committing to car. Practice a little. Use SLOW thinner !!!! Lay on WET! Patience!!!!! Thin 125%, 150% last 2 coats
After getting full coverage of texture typically 4 coats thin each progressive coat to 150% Use your judgment Think about 6 -8 coats.
Allow each coat to dry for at least 30 min.
Patience.
Texture must cover surface completely-there should be no gaps in the texture. The purpose of laying it on cross coating & wet is to get the texture to lay down flat.
Edge it in with a touch up gun first
Use fine line tape on all paint edge breaks
Do the bottom side of the hood first-part of your practice
Paint all other surfaces at the same time as the top side of the hood.
Across the tops of the fender & across the front header panel and even the hood - be sure to add 1-2 extra coats of Organosol to resist wear of the paint from stones, fender covers etc..
Last edited by Tom_Quad; 10/04/13 05:04 PM.
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Re: Organisol hood treatment and call outs
[Re: moparcanuk]
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10/07/13 05:59 PM
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Is the organisol finish much different then flat black?
Totally different shade and texture. It's not a flat finish. It's very deep black and in the sun, it looks like a zillion small diamonds glittering on the finish. Pictures simply cannot capture the beauty of this finish.
That's 'cause there's metallic silver in the mix...and the real stuff is a PITA to get right - solvent drying time is crucial, even variations in the temps on the hood, from areas where there is, and isn't bracing, can affect how the paint looks.
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