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Re: Voltage Question - How much? [Re: RapidRobert] #1504243
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Alright I got the alt off. I read continuity from the case to the fld terminal and from the grd terminal to the case. I also read continuity from the fld terminal to the grd termimal. One thing I am not sure of is the grd termimal. That termimal had the green wire on it and would always read continuity to the case because it is screwed to the case. I am confused which readings I should have continuity on. At this point all I know is I have continuity on everything. As of now I didn't take the alt apart to look inside. Is that my next step and if so what termimal to what should I not read comtinuity on. Thanks for all your help.

Re: Voltage Question - How much? [Re: 72cuda] #1504244
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I was thinking we were dealing with a '70 up style alt with 2 male field terminals? If so that is a closed loop field circuit in the alt with the 2 male terminals being the ends of that loop & it cannot have continuity to ground. If it has 1 field terminal (69 & earlier type) then that male terminal will have continuity to ground since the other "grn" brush is grounded (there will be some total resistance from the male terminal down & in/around the circuit then out to the case with the "grn" brush being grounded to the case with you haveing the ohmeter leads on the male terminal and the case.


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Re: Voltage Question - How much? [Re: RapidRobert] #1504245
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This is on a 71 Cuda. Is this possibly the wrong alt?

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You have the flat reg with the triangle connector with a blue and a green wire to that connector? If so that is the later (70 & up) system & requires an alt with 2 male field terminals in addition to the large "batt" terminal of course. The blue and green wires from the reg would go to the 2 alt field terminals & (switched 12V) from the bulkhead also T's into the blue wire somewhere there but I forget where so that the alt & the reg both get fed). If the original alt died & they replaced it accidentally with an earlier one (with only 1 field terminal) they would have noticed the extra field wire with no place to be plugged in on the alt I would think


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Re: Voltage Question - How much? [Re: RapidRobert] #1504247
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It is the regulator with a triangle connector and it has a blue wire and a green wire coming off of it. The alt has the large stud for the battery and it also has two male connectors. One is marked GRD and had the green wire attached and the other one is marked FLD and had the connector that has a blue and also a dark blue with white tracer on it. I am not sure about the continuity readings. the GRD terminal will have continuity with the case of the alt because the male terminal is screwed to the case. Where shouldn't I be reading continuity, between the FLD and the GRD terminals?

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There should be continuity between the 2 male terminals (that's a closed field circuit loop inside the alt) but no continuity between either of the 2 male terminals to the case (that circuit ain't (& should not be) grounded to the case


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Re: Voltage Question - How much? [Re: RapidRobert] #1504249
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Well it looks like my next step is to go to the parts store and pick up a new alt and make sure it doesn't have a GRD terminal that is screwed to the case.

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I wonder if someone grabbed an extra brush assy with the male lug on it & installed it on an earlier alt (in place of the "fld" brush holder with no male lug) & did not use insulating washers on the bolt to keep the brush from being grounded. This would have allowed current to come in from the blue hot wire on the other male terminal then go in/down/around the field circuit & out to the other brush & be grounded to the case right at the other brush which would have full fielded the system. If that's what happened actually that would have worked if they had put an insulating washer (might need 2) on the mini bolt that fastens that brush holder to the metal mounting nub on the alt case (which is grounded) so that that brush ain't grounded right there to the nub (case). Might check that out & might save you a trip.


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Re: Voltage Question - How much? [Re: RapidRobert] #1504251
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I just looked up Cuda alternators on Ebay to get a look at the back of one and I see what you are saying about the two male connectors not being grounded to the case. I tried to attach a picture of mine and the file was to large but mine is defiantly different. I bought it at a local parts store about a year ago. I would have to say at this point they sold me the wrong one. It is defiantly hard to find a good local parts store that knows anything about old cars. At least this time (thanks to you)I will know what to look for and test before I leave the store.

Re: Voltage Question - How much? [Re: 72cuda] #1504252
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I dont remember if it is the brush holder that is insulated or washers on the bolt is what insulates the brush from the case or both (been awhile since I did brushes). If you are going to purchase a new alt you might ask for one for an 85 M body (I believe) which is 78 amps rated. Might have the parts guy pull it & your choice & if they mount the same & the center divider is the std thick one & the price is right it'd make sense to go with that one


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Re: Voltage Question - How much? [Re: RapidRobert] #1504253
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I picked up my new alt yesterday and the back looked different. Both field terminals (not one field and one ground)were insulated. Rushed home today and installed it, what a big difference. The headlights and dash lights don't dim, the radio doesn't act up, the autometer amp gauge don't move around, and I no longer have a higher voltage at my battery that fluctuates. It holds nice and steady. A big thanks to all, especially RapidRobert for all you help.

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