318 freshen up -- parts order, what am i forgetting?
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09/18/13 10:54 PM
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motor is 318 from a 85 chrysler 5th ave, it will be going into a 66 dart with an aluminum intake/cam/lifter package. basically just need to reseal, it but figured best to double check before i order the parts.
Engine : Oil Pump SEALED POWER Part # 2244166 $27.79 $27.79
Engine : Engine Kit Gasket Set FEL-PRO Part # KS2114 Kit Set Incl. Prem. Valve Stem Seals; Salon Engine VIN S; SE Model Engine VIN P; Salon Engine VIN 4; Salon Engine VIN P $44.79 $44.79 Engine : Timing Set CLOYES Part # C3028 Includes: Cam, Crank, Chain Includes: Cam, Crank, Chain; Double Roller Type Chain; Heavy Duty Engine
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...down to only 1 mopar for the first time in 15 years!
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Re: 318 freshen up -- parts order, what am i forgetting?
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09/18/13 11:07 PM
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Brass freeze plugs, do it now or you will do it when the engine is in the car.
Maybe a cam, the cheap summit cam is an update over the stock one. But your 318 might be a roller cam motor, mid 85 is the time frame, you can still run a flat tappet cam in it,but you'd need the pushrods for an earlier 318.
I would eyeball the bearings while you have the pan off. Other than that, I can;t think of anything.
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Re: 318 freshen up -- parts order, what am i forgetting?
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09/19/13 12:31 AM
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Was this motor already in the 66 dart or is it being pulled out of the 85 then refreshed then swapped into the 66 for the first time?. The 392 "center" sump (more toward the front but is called a center sump) pan has the sump about an inch further rearward then the other one I have (I forget the #) & they use different pickups. Not sure if that will be an issue or not (I will check the pan # on my 65 dart/80's 318 tomorrow & the clearance) but something to keep in mind as you wouldn't want to get 1 foot away from having the eng on the mounts then have a problem with that. To answer your Q if the pickup is moderately clogged & wont clean out I'd get a new one. I would replace the rod bearings since it is so easy to do (unless they're pristine) & pull a main cap & see what it looks like. Eng inverted on the stand-Cork side pan gaskets go OVER the end black neoprene seal on the rear & go under the black neoprene seal on the front. Might use a thick wide/even swath of clear silicone on brake kleened front/rear block/intake surfaces instead of the supplied gaskets (most are too thick) & can hold the intake up just a hair & cause a front water port leak over time (let the silicone sit up overnight). I'd suggest the composite intake gaskets sprayed with part # 99MA Permatex "high tack" the red spray. Goes on light/even & is extremely tacky & seals very well & holds the gaskets in place. The black felpro "printo seal" gaskets with the blue borders around the ports are the best ones. Get a good timing set (after you install it dot to dot then turn it to 6/12 so you can put the rotor on #1 plug wire (easier to remember) & as you know you want that new cam to fire immediately. EDIT Meant to say 12/12 o'clock
Last edited by RapidRobert; 09/19/13 01:45 AM.
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Re: 318 freshen up -- parts order, what am i forgetting?
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Brass freeze plugs, do it now or you will do it when the engine is in the car.
Maybe a cam, the cheap summit cam is an update over the stock one. But your 318 might be a roller cam motor, mid 85 is the time frame, you can still run a flat tappet cam in it,but you'd need the pushrods for an earlier 318.
I would eyeball the bearings while you have the pan off. Other than that, I can;t think of anything.
i am going with a summit cam/intake/lifter package that i bought either off moparts or fabo, so that is all taken care of. i looked over all the freeze plugs and they are good, but i will probably replace them anyways because they are cheap and the engine is out already so it will be easy.
the motor was running and driving (and i drove it) in the donor car and so far the motor is looking really clean in the inside; but yes will crack the caps and take a look at the bearings for good measure.
this will be a temporary place holder while my 360 is being built. right now the car does not move on its own power and i have 4 more weeks off before starting the new job so i want to stab this 318 and call it a day.
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Re: 318 freshen up -- parts order, what am i forgetting?
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09/19/13 01:47 AM
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meant to say 12/12 O'clock then set the rotor under #1 plug wire
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Re: 318 freshen up -- parts order, what am i forgetting?
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When I was mocking up the 87 318 to go into my 65 Cuda I noticed that the driver's side head needed some grinding for the stock exhaust manifold to sit flat. Also the exhaust port/manifold overlap is real thin. The later ports are larger and the manifold will just barely overlap. I ended up using steel shim exhaust manifold gaskets so they wouldn't blow out. Look closely at that.
As for freeze plugs, they tend to rust from the inside out, so they look good til just before they blow.
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