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426 Wedge Motor ID Pad. #1501979 09/15/13 08:31 PM 09/15/13 08:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana TimS OP top fuel
TimS OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana	Looked at a car today that has a 1965 426 Wedge motor. ID pad shows: A426 then a Maltese Cross 5 21 2 All these in normal font I'm used to seeing on my 66-74 cars. Then there is an HP in Max wedge size font between the A426 and the build date. Any thoughts from the 426 wedge experts? Thanks. 1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic 1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow 1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue 2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black 2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver

Re: 426 Wedge Motor ID Pad. [Re: TimS] #1501980 09/15/13 09:32 PM 09/15/13 09:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Pic's worth a thousand words but so far it sounds typical of a 65 426S Wedge.

Re: 426 Wedge Motor ID Pad. [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1501981 09/15/13 09:51 PM 09/15/13 09:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana TimS OP top fuel
TimS OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana	Quote: Pic's worth a thousand words but so far it sounds typical of a 65 426S Wedge. What little I know that's what it appears to me as well. It has a single Carter 4 bbl on it with 6 bolt valve covers instead of the Max Wedge 4 bolt. The HP in larger font throws me though. The HP has been hit unevenly as well. Deeper at the bottom than the top. Like it was done after the fact. 1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic 1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow 1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue 2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black 2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver

Re: 426 Wedge Motor ID Pad. [Re: TimS] #1501982 09/15/13 09:55 PM 09/15/13 09:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,714 North Dakota 6PakBee I Live Here
6PakBee I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,714 North Dakota	I had a '65 Sport Fury with the 426 street wedge. My pad looked like yours sounds except I had an 'X' also (some kind of oversize or undersize, I forget which). My 'HP' stamp, IIRC, was also much larger that what was used later in the '60's. Again, IIRC the letters were easily 3/8" high. "We live in a time when intelligent people are being silenced so that stupid people won't be offended".

Re: 426 Wedge Motor ID Pad. [Re: 6PakBee] #1501983 09/15/13 10:05 PM 09/15/13 10:05 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,247 Alabama BigMoneyLewis master
BigMoneyLewis master Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,247 Alabama	Most Max wedges will be stamped MP (Maximum performance) not HP. An HP stamp is a typical 365 horse . Greg gregward@mchsi.com phone 256-852-0955

Re: 426 Wedge Motor ID Pad. [Re: 6PakBee] #1501984 09/15/13 10:31 PM 09/15/13 10:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana TimS OP top fuel
TimS OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana	Quote: I had a '65 Sport Fury with the 426 street wedge. My pad looked like yours sounds except I had an 'X' also (some kind of oversize or undersize, I forget which). My 'HP' stamp, IIRC, was also much larger that what was used later in the '60's. Again, IIRC the letters were easily 3/8" high. So the HP is a factory stamp even with the larger font? 1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic 1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow 1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue 2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black 2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver

Re: 426 Wedge Motor ID Pad. [Re: TimS] #1501985 09/15/13 10:44 PM 09/15/13 10:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	They didn't make a non HP 426 Street Wedge so the HP is likely original. If you want a more solid evaluation post a clear pic

Re: 426 Wedge Motor ID Pad. [Re: TimS] #1501986 09/16/13 09:58 AM 09/16/13 09:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,714 North Dakota 6PakBee I Live Here
6PakBee I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,714 North Dakota	Quote: Quote: I had a '65 Sport Fury with the 426 street wedge. My pad looked like yours sounds except I had an 'X' also (some kind of oversize or undersize, I forget which). My 'HP' stamp, IIRC, was also much larger that what was used later in the '60's. Again, IIRC the letters were easily 3/8" high. So the HP is a factory stamp even with the larger font? All I can say is I bought the car in 1973 before all the "numbers games" started so I've always assumed it was original. I thought the stamp font was odd but never pursued it. Remember, at that time Al Gore hadn't invented the internet yet and research was somewhat difficult. I sold the shortblock to someone in Denver in about 1985 so I don't have anything that I can show you now. That's the best I can do. It was a nice motor. Had a set of reworked rods and a set of Jahns forged pistons in it. "We live in a time when intelligent people are being silenced so that stupid people won't be offended".

Re: 426 Wedge Motor ID Pad. [Re: 6PakBee] #1501987 09/16/13 12:54 PM 09/16/13 12:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana TimS OP top fuel
TimS OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana	Quote: Quote: Quote: I had a '65 Sport Fury with the 426 street wedge. My pad looked like yours sounds except I had an 'X' also (some kind of oversize or undersize, I forget which). My 'HP' stamp, IIRC, was also much larger that what was used later in the '60's. Again, IIRC the letters were easily 3/8" high. So the HP is a factory stamp even with the larger font? You would think it was factory. Makes sense. All I can say is I bought the car in 1973 before all the "numbers games" started so I've always assumed it was original. I thought the stamp font was odd but never pursued it. Remember, at that time Al Gore hadn't invented the internet yet and research was somewhat difficult. I sold the shortblock to someone in Denver in about 1985 so I don't have anything that I can show you now. That's the best I can do. It was a nice motor. Had a set of reworked rods and a set of Jahns forged pistons in it. 1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic 1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow 1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue 2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black 2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver

Re: 426 Wedge Motor ID Pad. [Re: TimS] #1501988 09/16/13 10:00 PM 09/16/13 10:00 PM
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 53 Neenah,Wi R rod440 member
rod440 member R Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 53 Neenah,Wi	The 413 in my '65 300L has the large HP stamped in the pad & it is the original engine.I would think the large HP would be correct for the 426 street wedge also.

Re: 426 Wedge Motor ID Pad. [Re: rod440] #1501989 09/17/13 07:18 AM 09/17/13 07:18 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana TimS OP top fuel
TimS OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana	Quote: The 413 in my '65 300L has the large HP stamped in the pad & it is the original engine.I would think the large HP would be correct for the 426 street wedge also. Thanks for the info. My 35 plus years of restoring Mopars has been predominately on 68-74 B and E bodies so this research on the 62 Sport Fury has been different to say the least, along with the 65 Street wedge that's in it. 1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic 1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow 1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue 2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black 2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver

Re: 426 Wedge Motor ID Pad. [Re: BigMoneyLewis] #1501990 09/19/13 12:53 AM 09/19/13 12:53 AM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 273 Edmonton alberta Canada M mr. 63plymouth enthusiast
mr. 63plymouth enthusiast M Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 273 Edmonton alberta Canada	Quote: Most Max wedges will be stamped MP (Maximum performance) not HP. An HP stamp is a typical 365 horse . Greg Actually ALL 1962 Maximum Performance dodge and plymouth's had HP on the ID pad! And HP-HC for high compression deals 7857780-image.jpg (165 downloads)

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