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Correct brackets for '70 340 power steering pump #1501476 09/14/13 08:50 PM 09/14/13 08:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,327 Toronto (YYZ) Ontario YYZ OP master
YYZ OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,327 Toronto (YYZ) Ontario	Saginaw for the regular setup - not the Federal setup as used on T/A & AAR. I set another Moparts member up with what I thought was a full set of brackets and the pump, but it's been 10+ years since I built a small block and something may be missing. Pics of the right setup would be appreciated and I can probably match up what's required from my stash Thanks in advance

Re: Correct brackets for '70 340 power steering pump [Re: YYZ] #1501477 09/14/13 09:18 PM 09/14/13 09:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,116 Sacramento,California JRepucci master
JRepucci master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,116 Sacramento,California	1970 340 uses a Federal pump just like the AAR-T/A's Axle package cars had a cooler.

Re: Correct brackets for '70 340 power steering pump [Re: JRepucci] #1501478 09/14/13 09:46 PM 09/14/13 09:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,327 Toronto (YYZ) Ontario YYZ OP master
YYZ OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,327 Toronto (YYZ) Ontario	Perhaps the pump had been swapped on this car then - I pulled it from a relatively original '70 'Cuda 340 automatic car. So to rephrase the question - what do the correct brackets look like for the Saginaw pump as used on a '71 340? Thanks in advance

Re: Correct brackets for '70 340 power steering pump [Re: YYZ] #1501479 09/14/13 10:06 PM 09/14/13 10:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,116 Sacramento,California JRepucci master
JRepucci master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,116 Sacramento,California	1971 uses the federal pump as well. 70's has a 3 spoke pulley and 71's have a solid pulley. Here are pic's of a small block Saginaw pump and brackets 7852060-DSC00454.JPG (768 downloads)

Re: Correct brackets for '70 340 power steering pump [Re: JRepucci] #1501480 09/14/13 10:06 PM 09/14/13 10:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,116 Sacramento,California JRepucci master
JRepucci master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,116 Sacramento,California	back 7852061-DSC00455.JPG (525 downloads)

Re: Correct brackets for '70 340 power steering pump [Re: JRepucci] #1501481 09/14/13 11:04 PM 09/14/13 11:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,327 Toronto (YYZ) Ontario YYZ OP master
YYZ OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,327 Toronto (YYZ) Ontario	I've owned 2 '71 340 cars, both untouched, both came with the Saginaw pumps. One 802 SPD, the other C09 SPD. Thank you for the pics

Re: Correct brackets for '70 340 power steering pump [Re: JRepucci] #1501482 09/15/13 02:54 AM 09/15/13 02:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,471 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,471 So Cal	Quote: back There is a 3rd bracket that is bolted to the block with two bolts and the power steering pump belt tension adjustment pivots off point of the point of that 3rd bracket shown below. The bracket that bolts to the back on the power steering pump is not shown in the picture below. Caution, I had a bracket setup that looked almost the same but the dimensions were off. I think it was a /6 or big block PS bracket. Couldn't tell in a picture. 7852411-2_25_11Sm15.JPG (1104 downloads) Last edited by autoxcuda; 09/15/13 01:09 PM.

Re: Correct brackets for '70 340 power steering pump [Re: JRepucci] #1501483 09/15/13 10:28 AM 09/15/13 10:28 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,469 It's a dry heat gtx6970 Too Many Posts
gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,469 It's a dry heat	Quote: 1970 340 uses a Federal pump just like the AAR-T/A's Axle package cars had a cooler. Gonna have to dis-agree with this one. I've seen to many small block cars with saginaw pumps to have been ' replacements ' Including my former 1970 Challenger 340 , everything on that car was dated correct for the car

Re: Correct brackets for '70 340 power steering pump [Re: gtx6970] #1501484 09/15/13 10:46 AM 09/15/13 10:46 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,193 NEW JERSEY AARCONV master
AARCONV master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,193 NEW JERSEY	even my 70 barracuda 318 has a federal

Re: Correct brackets for '70 340 power steering pump [Re: AARCONV] #1501485 09/15/13 11:15 AM 09/15/13 11:15 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	I'll post some pics of an original unmolested setup I have a bit later.

Re: Correct brackets for '70 340 power steering pump [Re: YYZ] #1501486 09/15/13 12:33 PM 09/15/13 12:33 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 602 N.E.Ohio P pacifica mopar
pacifica mopar P Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 602 N.E.Ohio	From Carlysle 2012 - unrestored AAR in the building 7852724-100_1150(Small).JPG (740 downloads)

Re: Correct brackets for '70 340 power steering pump [Re: pacifica] #1501487 09/15/13 01:07 PM 09/15/13 01:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,224 JERSEY RJS master
RJS master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,224 JERSEY	Quote: From Carlysle 2012 - unrestored AAR in the building That's the same set-up my 71 340 w3.91's SPD 925 has. Last edited by RJS; 09/15/13 01:08 PM.

Re: Correct brackets for '70 340 power steering pump [Re: RJS] #1501488 09/15/13 01:19 PM 09/15/13 01:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Here's another one from an A-body, 1971 340 Demon, gear package car (has cooler) Oct 1970 SPD. 7852779-71DemonPowerSteeringFJ6.jpg (3585 downloads)

Re: Correct brackets for '70 340 power steering pump [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1501489 09/15/13 01:20 PM 09/15/13 01:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Survivor 71 340 Demon, Oct 1970 SPD, non gear package car. 7852780-71DemonSurvivorPowerSteering.jpg (1454 downloads)

Re: Correct brackets for '70 340 power steering pump [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1501490 09/15/13 01:32 PM 09/15/13 01:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Curiously, this one is off of a 71 340 Challenger with an early Oct SPD as well. It looked VERY original, I cleaned it up for this pic. *As a side note, all of these examples had correctly dated PS hoses, and the one with the cooler had a correctly dated cooler as well. This adds to the likelyhood that they haven't likely been changed, etc. but nothing is 100% certain without all of the history. 7852796-1971Challenger340PowerSteering.jpg (636 downloads)

Re: Correct brackets for '70 340 power steering pump [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1501491 09/15/13 01:33 PM 09/15/13 01:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Same pump before I steam cleaned it to get some of the major gunk off of it. 7852798-71340ChallengerPSpump2.jpg (398 downloads)

Re: Correct brackets for '70 340 power steering pump [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1501492 09/15/13 01:34 PM 09/15/13 01:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	2 7852802-71340ChallengerPSPump.jpg (330 downloads)

Re: Correct brackets for '70 340 power steering pump [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1501493 09/15/13 01:36 PM 09/15/13 01:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	The Challenger was an A/C car, maybe this or the fact that it's an E-body were a contributing factor in the pump type? 7852805-71340ChallengerPullies.jpg (389 downloads)

Re: Correct brackets for '70 340 power steering pump [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1501494 09/15/13 01:45 PM 09/15/13 01:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,471 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,471 So Cal	Quote: Curiously, this one is off of a 71 340 Challenger with an early Oct SPD as well. It looked VERY original, I cleaned it up for this pic. *As a side note, all of these examples had correctly dated PS hoses, and the one with the cooler had a correctly dated cooler as well. This adds to the likelyhood that they haven't likely been changed, etc. but nothing is 100% certain without all of the history. Those brackets were on a 70 up small block with aluminum water pump? Looks like the same brackets on a cast iron setup.

Re: Correct brackets for '70 340 power steering pump [Re: autoxcuda] #1501495 09/15/13 02:06 PM 09/15/13 02:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Yes, aluminum water pumps, all of them. Here is another setup I have, I bought it as you see it with no known history as to what it came off of. It obviously has a cooler and all the dates point toward it likely being from a 1973 model year car. It has the solid pulley. 7852829-73ishPowerSteeringsetup.jpg (792 downloads)

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