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How much preload on hydraulic lifters
#1498598
09/08/13 10:39 PM
09/08/13 10:39 PM
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tywebb2
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I just installed a Lunati 60303 hyd cam and went through the 30 min break in yesterday. Car made it through break in fine and everything sounded great. I went back and readjusted the valve lash/preload today and now the valvetrain seems considerably noisier. I used 1/2 turn past "0" lash both during the cam install and when readjusting. I was going to put another 1/2 turn preload on each lifter to see if it quiets down any. Is 1 turn preload ok or too much? Anything else I can do to quiet it down? Always had some ticking with my old cam but not this much.
'72 440 Cuda 11.673 @ 115.91 w/1.663 60'
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Re: How much preload on hydraulic lifters
[Re: tywebb2]
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09/08/13 11:22 PM
09/08/13 11:22 PM
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I've used as little as .010, but that's risky. If it backs off you don't have much time to catch it. Nowadays I use .016-.017(1/3 turn on a 7/16-20 thread.)
Yeah, it's got a smallblock.
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Re: How much preload on hydraulic lifters
[Re: 340B5]
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09/08/13 11:31 PM
09/08/13 11:31 PM
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72Swinger
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I would'nt of re-tightened the preload unless you backed them back off first. If that is what you did then the noise is probably just a by-product of the lifter design used and they bleed oil pressure at idle speeds. My Comp 822-16's are noisy no matter what preload. So I use as little as possible.
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Re: How much preload on hydraulic lifters
[Re: 72Swinger]
#1498602
09/08/13 11:55 PM
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tywebb2
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Granted when I was breaking it in I was running at 2k most of the time so could that be why I didn't notice the noise then? After the 1/2 hr break in the car was nice and hot and I adjusted the idle down to normal and didn't have it running at idle long before shutting it down.
Today I was starting it cold and let it idle....never even tried spinning it up any because I was waiting for the valvetrain noise to go away. After a minute or so I killed it to go back through and check everything all over again. I had my brother in law go through them again and he found some I didn't preload enough. Started it back up and it was quieter but still louder than the 509 it replaced. That's when he said put another 1/2 turn on each to see if it helps.
We did go through using the exh openning adj intake, intake closing adjust exh method.
Should I go back in and set for 3/4 turn preload instead or just run it as is?
'72 440 Cuda 11.673 @ 115.91 w/1.663 60'
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Re: How much preload on hydraulic lifters
[Re: tywebb2]
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09/09/13 07:59 PM
09/09/13 07:59 PM
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You can try it but no guarantees. Healthy spring pressures are going to bleed the lifters down pretty quickly. If it loses preload, you need to check the cam lobes. I hope it isn't that, but after 25 years of never having a cam go flat, I had my first last year. It can happen to anyone.
Mike Beachel
I didn't write the rules of math nor create the laws of physics, I am just bound by them.
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