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Then the Coyote engine has been out for awhile and the HP it makes is pretty impressive. A 4 valve head gives the engine great low end torque for it's small displacement size.

Could you imagine what a 500 cube engine with a good set of 4 valve heads could do to a set rear tires.........

Now given these engines handle supercharging really well and make over 800+ HP that kinda puts the engine back into the unusable for road racing with too much power out of the turns.

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I've never been impressed with any 4.6 i've driven or beat. They just dont have what ive gotten used to with a BB Mopar. Not even remotely.

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I have pretty high expectation for my current 6.1 project. Good luck with your Mustang adventure, the Coyote is a very stout engine and really puts everything else Ford has built in the last 30 years to shame.

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At the last SDR-SCCA Autocross a friend of mine was doing some 200tw tire testing in his Mustang on the Saturday practice while I was running the Challenger. The fastest tire he tried was the Falken 615K, and with those was about 2 seconds off of my pace. The following day, when he was back on his slicks, he had me covered by about a second. He is a really good driver and is in the running for a jacket in ESP with a bone stock 2012 5.0 with tires.

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Dan, this is the first time you didn't complain about my driving technique!
I agree with Mr. Angry, but wanted to add two more cents, as someone who tracks his old Mopars and new Mustang as often as often as I can: My 2013 420HP GT was $29,800 out the door with a 6spd, 3.73 rear, and Brembo brake package. I added $200 Eibach lowering springs. So for $30K, I have a daily driver track car that beats new Camaros, including a 1LE with a Pedders Supercar Suspension package at the So-Cal Challenge Cammarillo autocross. The Mustang is simply lighter and more nimble. At the last two local Goodguys autocross I ran away from all the new Camaros and Challengers, some with a lot of $$ in mods. Again, the Mustang, on most tracks, is just as fast in a straight line and more maneuverable. I love driving the Mustang daily, and it does many things very well, but, it does weigh 3650 lbs. The Mustang also has traction control/electronics that I think distract from the pure joy of tracking a car, even when supposedly turned off. Against an old Mopar, properly set up by Dan and Hotchkis, on a small course where I can't exploit the Mustangs power advantage, the Hotchkis 71 Challenger is simply a better handling car, and ultimately I think a more satisfying car to drive fast because of the lack of driver aids. This is why next year I am keeping the Mustang on daily driver duty, but having Dan/Hotchkis set up my Valiant to be my track car, and ultimately, for about 2/3 the investment, as fast or faster than a new stock Mustang on most tracks.

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70 Challenger: 3006lbs base.
70 Mustang FB: lighter.
69 Mustang FB: lighter still.
67-8 FB: lighter still.
65-6 FB: lighter still.
65 Notch: you get the point.

How much is a -65 Valiant ?

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At the last SDR-SCCA Autocross a friend of mine was doing some 200tw tire testing in his Mustang on the Saturday practice while I was running the Challenger. The fastest tire he tried was the Falken 615K, and with those was about 2 seconds off of my pace. The following day, when he was back on his slicks, he had me covered by about a second. He is a really good driver and is in the running for a jacket in ESP with a bone stock 2012 5.0 with tires.

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Dan, this is the first time you didn't complain about my driving technique!
I agree with Mr. Angry, but wanted to add two more cents, as someone who tracks his old Mopars and new Mustang as often as often as I can: My 2013 420HP GT was $29,800 out the door with a 6spd, 3.73 rear, and Brembo brake package. I added $200 Eibach lowering springs. So for $30K, I have a daily driver track car that beats new Camaros, including a 1LE with a Pedders Supercar Suspension package at the So-Cal Challenge Cammarillo autocross. The Mustang is simply lighter and more nimble. At the last two local Goodguys autocross I ran away from all the new Camaros and Challengers, some with a lot of $$ in mods. Again, the Mustang, on most tracks, is just as fast in a straight line and more maneuverable. I love driving the Mustang daily, and it does many things very well, but, it does weigh 3650 lbs. The Mustang also has traction control/electronics that I think distract from the pure joy of tracking a car, even when supposedly turned off. Against an old Mopar, properly set up by Dan and Hotchkis, on a small course where I can't exploit the Mustangs power advantage, the Hotchkis 71 Challenger is simply a better handling car, and ultimately I think a more satisfying car to drive fast because of the lack of driver aids. This is why next year I am keeping the Mustang on daily driver duty, but having Dan/Hotchkis set up my Valiant to be my track car, and ultimately, for about 2/3 the investment, as fast or faster than a new stock Mustang on most tracks.

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Tom ....after watching the Hot Rod tire test, have you ever tried those Dunlops on the Mustang?

Looks like those Dunlops are .93 faster on The Taxi over the Falken 615's

Valiants are cool. Stroker small blocks produce great power and lower weight over the front end.

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3 seconds a lap from a tire change. Now that is amazing.

I understand it's tough for the working man to cough up the money for the tires.

Were the tires on your Mustang the Goodyear F1 from the factory?

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Quiet?, You on straight road at speed, or when aggressive cornering ?

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Jim... very coooll pic! I like the autocross class... "C/P" (C/Prepared)... everyone always wants to be in C/P at the SCCA autocross.

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