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Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar
[Re: TC@HP2]
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09/30/13 11:43 AM
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I still have other Mopars....
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Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar
[Re: PHJ426]
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09/30/13 01:15 PM
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Looks like for about $25000, I could buy your car and bolt on some: wheels(17x9),Tires (26.1 tall 9.7"wide tread) Fiberglass standard bolt on hood(paint satin black), larger 1.06 torsion bars, 160lb" custom leaf springs, frt sway bar(tubular,1/4") single plane intake and four barrel, sell the air grabber hood and six pack setup(old tires /wheels possibly old stock swaybar). It would look good, handle good, fast and quick, nice cruiser. I would not be going to a track day pretending I'm swede savage and whoopin 2011-2014 Boss 302s, but I'd be very happy with the car and the driving experience I would get.  Honey call the bank   
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Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar
[Re: jcc]
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09/30/13 02:50 PM
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Bring cash....
btw Mitch stopped by my place this weekend. I had the privilege of driving his T/A. I can tell you small torsion bar guys there is no reason to fear the big torsion bars........so take your 1.06 bars and use them for pry bars in the shop...they got nothing on the large bars.
Now you gone and done kicked the hornets nest with that one. 
That might be more egregious than saying Mustang........ 
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Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar
[Re: amxautox]
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09/30/13 03:34 PM
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Tom (AMX)... T/Anks very much!... another year wiser!
Mopar Mitch
"Road racers and autocrossers go in deeper and come out harder!"... and rain never stops us from having fun with our cars... in fact, it makes us better drivers!
Check out MOPAR ACTION MAGAZINE, August 2006 issue for feature article and specs on my autocross T/A!
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Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar
[Re: DemonDuster]
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09/30/13 03:44 PM
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Driving PHJ426's (Paul) 500 stroker 72 RR was a blast.. a rocket ship... awesome torque! This car is a diamond in the rough, and truly not ~rough at all... will make the next owner very, very happy!.... and, it will easily dust-away most other cars on the street... much more power under the hood than my T/A!
Mopar Mitch
"Road racers and autocrossers go in deeper and come out harder!"... and rain never stops us from having fun with our cars... in fact, it makes us better drivers!
Check out MOPAR ACTION MAGAZINE, August 2006 issue for feature article and specs on my autocross T/A!
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Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar
[Re: amxautox]
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09/30/13 03:51 PM
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TOM... the older/wiser folks are truly faster as they get older. I personally know a couple past autoxrs, now they run road racing competition and/or hi-speed auto-x, in their current age of mid-late 60s and 70s... they are nearly unbeatable at every event!!! AND.. when they walk a pylon course, before the day's competition runs, they generally still walk at a good pace!
Mopar Mitch
"Road racers and autocrossers go in deeper and come out harder!"... and rain never stops us from having fun with our cars... in fact, it makes us better drivers!
Check out MOPAR ACTION MAGAZINE, August 2006 issue for feature article and specs on my autocross T/A!
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Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar
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09/30/13 06:07 PM
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... i'm probably talking Mad Max here.
My son's car is really close to Mad Max. It's got hacked wheel openings to fit the FREE used Nascar slicks (we couldn't afford autocross tires). We did custom build the original 15x10 small bolt steel wheels. The 15x10 big bolt were a combo of a pair of Pete Paulsen circle track steelies and a pair of home-built 15x10 Rallyes...The interior consists of a pair of race buckets, a cage, and a gauge panel...
But, like I said we had very little in the car. The most was probably in the 383 build, but we were under $5k. We could NOT compete against the fully-race-prepped first gen Mustang in CP (we had to run CP due to the mods), but my son's car was street driven...
I [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] LOVE IT! Flat black that sucker and i'm sold.
The kid wanted red... It was blue when we got it. The number in the windshield is the number the car competed under in IHRA drag strips. It was kind of a hack job to start with so it just made it more fun (original slant car that drag raced with a 440).
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Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar
[Re: Mopar Mitch]
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09/30/13 06:44 PM
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Yes, the equipment does get more expensive. When I bought the boat I have now, 24 years ago, it was the top of the line, or so, and cost 17 grand. The top of the line now cost 65 THOUSAND, and probably more as that price was 2 years ago. I don't catch as many big fish as I used to, but then I haven't been to the best lake in over 10 years now. I've done ok this year as the local lake has changed over the past 10-15 years and I keep fishing the way I like, but have changed the techniques this summer, and so more big fish. The other local lake I've done great, considering I've only fished it 3 or 4 times this summer, and usually a big fish each trip, even 2 big fish the other time a few weeks ago, AND fishing with a crankbait-the way I like to fish.
Tom
"Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing."
-Henry David Thoreau
Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths
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Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar
[Re: PHJ426]
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10/01/13 06:36 AM
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Now for the tires I was running some BFG sport comp 2's 255/50R16 all around....on some V48 wheels......these are a nice cruising tire but most mopar people can't see nothing but mopar wheels on a mopar so Mitch and I did some trading. Look for the old Tuna boat's wheels and tires on Mitch's Challenger soon.....
Hence the Ralley wheels on the car use to be on Mithch's T/A as well as the BF G's
Now they are on the Tuna Boat....
Yeah... maybe leave the whole "tuna boat" part out ov the ads when you sell that car... Hahahaha
By the way, while possibly not the best car to start with if track domination is your goal, that Roadrunner looks bad ass. LOVE 71's, love that color. Love the hood. Cant believe you're selling it because ov a Mustang thread...
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Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar
[Re: Pale_Roader]
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10/01/13 08:15 AM
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Pale I have been doing this Mopar thing for a long time.....over 25 years now. Cars come and go. I have had many some stay longer than others and this one has been around many years....14years to be exact. It's time for this one to go. Some people just sit and watch a project car in their driveway. This car has never been sitting....I have enjoyed the tuna boat every year I have owned it.....burning up the tarmac.... Truth is I had my mind made up to sell the car came long before the thread. Then I spoke with Mr. Angry concerning the cross roads I was at with the project....Either dump 30K into this 72 Runner to make the car I wanted it to become or sell it and move on. From Mr Angry: Quote:
The Mustang is by far the best way to go. I hit the track at least twice per month, I'm an instructor with NASA and an automotive journalist which means I get to drive just about everything under the sun. Bang for the buck the Mustang cannot be beat. I purchased a new 2013 base model GT last year with the track pack and the Recaro's. It's been bullet proof and has the capacity in stock form to compete with much higher dollar cars.
Now... if you want to step your game up even more, look at a Camaro SS with the 1LE package. That will out handle the Mustang as it has better suspension and much wider meat all around. However it will run about 5-6k more. 
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As I've watched this thread, I can add that my cool T/a is still one of the most popular "pony cars" at shows and any autx/road course events. I love driving it.. handles great, etc.
Last night (Fri) I went to a local show ~500 cars (w/o my T/A) and I looked over ~5 new Boss 302 cars.. very impressiven (I prefer the SC500 supercharged model). I asked and one owner allowed me to sit in his Recaro seat.. very good bolster!.. (similar to my seats in my Chally). Of interest, the owner told me that he paid ~$40k; and... when you buy a new one Ford offers to take you on road race tracks to "teach you how to drive your new Boss 302 car...".. that's cool! Ford is really catering to the pony car market better than any other mfgr. I hope to actually "compete" against these new Boss 302 cars at some local road race tracks (when I eventually have better sticky tires)... I believe that I could stay with them (excluding the highest speed tracks where O/D becomes required), maybe do better than a few.... but as we all know.. the "nut behind the wheel" will make the most difference.
At the last SDR-SCCA Autocross a friend of mine was doing some 200tw tire testing in his Mustang on the Saturday practice while I was running the Challenger. The fastest tire he tried was the Falken 615K, and with those was about 2 seconds off of my pace. The following day, when he was back on his slicks, he had me covered by about a second. He is a really good driver and is in the running for a jacket in ESP with a bone stock 2012 5.0 with tires.
Since Im currently not extremely wealthy to own a shop to store a large collection I will have to be content with owning one or two at a time....this one just has to be the one to go. Not a big deal they are only cars that need to be driven and not sit on a parking lot in a car show.....
Good luck with your build. I wish you the best of luck in obtaining your goals.
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Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar
[Re: PHJ426]
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10/01/13 03:04 PM
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67autocross
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Pale
I have been doing this Mopar thing for a long time.....over 25 years now. Cars come and go. I have had many some stay longer than others and this one has been around many years....14years to be exact. It's time for this one to go.
Some people just sit and watch a project car in their driveway. This car has never been sitting....I have enjoyed the tuna boat every year I have owned it.....burning up the tarmac....
Truth is I had my mind made up to sell the car came long before the thread.
Then I spoke with Mr. Angry concerning the cross roads I was at with the project....Either dump 30K into this 72 Runner to make the car I wanted it to become or sell it and move on.
From Mr Angry:
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The Mustang is by far the best way to go. I hit the track at least twice per month, I'm an instructor with NASA and an automotive journalist which means I get to drive just about everything under the sun. Bang for the buck the Mustang cannot be beat. I purchased a new 2013 base model GT last year with the track pack and the Recaro's. It's been bullet proof and has the capacity in stock form to compete with much higher dollar cars.
Now... if you want to step your game up even more, look at a Camaro SS with the 1LE package. That will out handle the Mustang as it has better suspension and much wider meat all around. However it will run about 5-6k more.
Then from Dan @ hotchkis :
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As I've watched this thread, I can add that my cool T/a is still one of the most popular "pony cars" at shows and any autx/road course events. I love driving it.. handles great, etc.
Last night (Fri) I went to a local show ~500 cars (w/o my T/A) and I looked over ~5 new Boss 302 cars.. very impressiven (I prefer the SC500 supercharged model). I asked and one owner allowed me to sit in his Recaro seat.. very good bolster!.. (similar to my seats in my Chally). Of interest, the owner told me that he paid ~$40k; and... when you buy a new one Ford offers to take you on road race tracks to "teach you how to drive your new Boss 302 car...".. that's cool! Ford is really catering to the pony car market better than any other mfgr. I hope to actually "compete" against these new Boss 302 cars at some local road race tracks (when I eventually have better sticky tires)... I believe that I could stay with them (excluding the highest speed tracks where O/D becomes required), maybe do better than a few.... but as we all know.. the "nut behind the wheel" will make the most difference.
At the last SDR-SCCA Autocross a friend of mine was doing some 200tw tire testing in his Mustang on the Saturday practice while I was running the Challenger. The fastest tire he tried was the Falken 615K, and with those was about 2 seconds off of my pace. The following day, when he was back on his slicks, he had me covered by about a second. He is a really good driver and is in the running for a jacket in ESP with a bone stock 2012 5.0 with tires.
Since Im currently not extremely wealthy to own a shop to store a large collection I will have to be content with owning one or two at a time....this one just has to be the one to go. Not a big deal they are only cars that need to be driven and not sit on a parking lot in a car show.....
Good luck with your build. I wish you the best of luck in obtaining your goals.
Well your 71 is a really nice car! I hope you find a buyer for it so you can get your next ride, did you take off the moni lite wheels?
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Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar
[Re: 67autocross]
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10/01/13 03:15 PM
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67Autocross -- Paul did remove the mini-light rims/tires... he now has my original 15x7 Ralley rims (with BFG T/A 245-60 front, 275-60 rear) which he and I worked in a trade/deal/cash. Read above other replies. Paul's RR is a rocket ship and a blast to drive... someone will get a really good car!
Mopar Mitch
"Road racers and autocrossers go in deeper and come out harder!"... and rain never stops us from having fun with our cars... in fact, it makes us better drivers!
Check out MOPAR ACTION MAGAZINE, August 2006 issue for feature article and specs on my autocross T/A!
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He let me drive his Challenger at the Monster Mopar autocross. Yeah bigger might be better for mostly comp. Then I'd need the 225 lb rate fiberglass leaf springs too. I went conservative on my rate choices. The Torsion bars (.92 tooth picks), wheels and tires currently on your boat would have me singing sea-chantys or barfing from seasicknees, ship ahoy matey ! LOL ! 
