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Front Bumper Brackets, 72-93 trucks #1490233
08/25/13 10:36 AM
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I have a '76 W100 and I also have a brand new bumper from Mopar sitting in my shop, but the two will not go together!

Here's the jist: Many years ago, my Dad bought a new front bumper for (then-his) 1976 W100 and never got around to putting it on. Well, I want to put it on this truck now (mine now), and the holes in the bumper are spaced differently than the original, so the brackets that I have do not work. Here is my question: When our dealer ordered this bumper, was it for a later model (81-93?) maybe? The original bumper has bolts spaced approx. 33" wide and 5.5" apart (top to bottom). The new bumper has the same 33", but top to bottom the bolts are only 4" apart. Would brackets off of a newer model, that fit the 4" bumper bolt pattern, still bolt to the frame of my '76? Has a three bolt triangular pattern on the frame for the bumper brackets.

Anyone done this before? Please advise. Thank you!

JS


76 Dodge Adventurer Sport Power Wagon W100 318, 727, NP203 Fulltime 4x4 Russet Red
06 Jeep Commander Ltd 4x4, 5.7L Hemi, QuadraDrive II
06 Chrysler 300C AWD 5.7L Hemi
10 Mopar 10 Challenger R/T, #483/500, 5.7L HEMI
10 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd 4x4 5.7L HEMI
11 Dodge Ram 1500 LoneStar Quad Cab, 5.7L HEMI, Fulltime 4x4, Deep Cherry Red
16 Jeep Cherokee Limited 3.2L Pentastar V6, 9 Speed Torqueflite, 4x4, Black

Re: Front Bumper Brackets, 72-93 trucks [Re: AdventurerSport] #1490234
08/25/13 11:21 AM
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Do the bumpers look the same? As far as I know the early 80s used the 70s style the first couple yrs.
81-93 had 3 different bumpers.

Re: Front Bumper Brackets, 72-93 trucks [Re: AdventurerSport] #1490235
08/25/13 11:28 AM
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I am going the other way ...earlier bumper on my '85.

I just went and measured the '79-80 bumper I bought (used, with brackets) and the bolt holes are a little under 5" apart?

Bumper guards cover the mounting holes.

The 81 up bumpers are noticeably different, have a character line about 3" or so down from the top, and I think they are slightly wider, maybe wrap around the fender a little.

Got a picture or a part #?

Is it possible that the bumper is for a van?

The frame ends are all the same as far as I know, 3 bolt triangular, and the brackets will swap.

I haven't installed the earlier one yet, I think I can straighten my '85 one with a little help, and would like to do it before swapping the earlier one I want on there.

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Re: Front Bumper Brackets, 72-93 trucks [Re: AdventurerSport] #1490236
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Around 82 the bumpers changed and then in 86. Brackets were a little different for the 86 and newer, I know that much.

Re: Front Bumper Brackets, 72-93 trucks [Re: buildanother] #1490237
08/25/13 02:22 PM
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New bumpe has the character line that the old one does not. Otherwise, dimensionally the same (or close enough), just the spacing of bolt holes on the bumper is different. I wonder if its 82-85 or so? Looks like the bumper in the picture above on the tan truck, albeit without bumper guards. Thanks

JS


76 Dodge Adventurer Sport Power Wagon W100 318, 727, NP203 Fulltime 4x4 Russet Red
06 Jeep Commander Ltd 4x4, 5.7L Hemi, QuadraDrive II
06 Chrysler 300C AWD 5.7L Hemi
10 Mopar 10 Challenger R/T, #483/500, 5.7L HEMI
10 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd 4x4 5.7L HEMI
11 Dodge Ram 1500 LoneStar Quad Cab, 5.7L HEMI, Fulltime 4x4, Deep Cherry Red
16 Jeep Cherokee Limited 3.2L Pentastar V6, 9 Speed Torqueflite, 4x4, Black

Re: Front Bumper Brackets, 72-93 trucks [Re: AdventurerSport] #1490238
08/25/13 04:25 PM
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so, I'm likely looking for an 82-85 or 86-up bumper bracket set. Thanks for the info, I'll check the local Grab and Go (self-service auto salvage) this week. Thanks again

JS


76 Dodge Adventurer Sport Power Wagon W100 318, 727, NP203 Fulltime 4x4 Russet Red
06 Jeep Commander Ltd 4x4, 5.7L Hemi, QuadraDrive II
06 Chrysler 300C AWD 5.7L Hemi
10 Mopar 10 Challenger R/T, #483/500, 5.7L HEMI
10 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd 4x4 5.7L HEMI
11 Dodge Ram 1500 LoneStar Quad Cab, 5.7L HEMI, Fulltime 4x4, Deep Cherry Red
16 Jeep Cherokee Limited 3.2L Pentastar V6, 9 Speed Torqueflite, 4x4, Black

Re: Front Bumper Brackets, 72-93 trucks [Re: AdventurerSport] #1490239
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I removed a front bumper(at the frame) froma a '77, and bolted it directly to my '87 and '88, using the brackets from the '77. same same.

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Re: Front Bumper Brackets, 72-93 trucks [Re: basketcase] #1490240
08/25/13 08:10 PM
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I should still have the front bumper off my '85, ans IIRC it has the brackets. PM me it you need them. It sounds like that's the style of yours.


Dave


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Re: Front Bumper Brackets, 72-93 trucks [Re: basketcase] #1490241
08/26/13 12:15 AM
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Quote:

I removed a front bumper(at the frame) froma a '77, and bolted it directly to my '87 and '88, using the brackets from the '77. same same.




The bracets mount to the frame with the same 3 bolt pattern.. Its the bolt pattern to the bumpers are different as are the bumpers a slightly different shape..


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Re: Front Bumper Brackets, 72-93 trucks [Re: 340SHORTY] #1490242
08/26/13 06:14 PM
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and that was the reason for my next post saying I had brackets for an '85 style bumper.....


Dave


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Re: Front Bumper Brackets, 72-93 trucks [Re: basketcase] #1490243
08/30/13 10:25 AM
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72-82 used the origInal smooth bumper
83-85 used the sculpted bumper that is similar to 79-85 vans
86- 90 used a bigger smooth bumper also used til 93 on low line
91-93 high line trucks used the big bumper with all the plastic covers and guards.
Mounting brackets are bumper specific

Re: Front Bumper Brackets, 72-93 trucks [Re: demon] #1490244
08/30/13 04:24 PM
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what would you call this 1 ??



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Re: Front Bumper Brackets, 72-93 trucks [Re: 340SHORTY] #1490245
08/30/13 04:36 PM
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That's a (bent)72 -82 style with gucci guards and strips.







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