Re: Champion Rad and OEM electric fan setups
[Re: mshred]
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but I find the quality of aftermarket fans to be crappy to be honest
Probably due to the chinese brand that chinese radiators seem to use most of the time ?
I use a pair of high output Spal fans on my setup (non Mopar) and they work excellent.
For a killer OEM setup, the Mercedes one seems to really blow. 
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Re: Champion Rad and OEM electric fan setups
[Re: rapom]
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That will do it but, be warned that fan draws 40+ amps!  Say goodbye to anything factory about your alternator and charging circuit. Not saying it's not a good idea but you will need to plan around this fan if you want to run it.  I run the dual BeCool fan module in my Charger. I want to say the fans are made by Spal. It keeps my BB stroker cool on a 26" Summit aluminum radiator. I have never had the engine get over 190* idling in traffic on a hot day with the A/C on. My setup also only draws 20 amps while running.
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Re: Champion Rad and OEM electric fan setups
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This moparts member https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=1#Post6953270 makes the controller for the fan and it is nice. It starts very soft and will only run as fast as it needs to. It has several stages of speed so you never get the hit of 40 amps. Just in case I bought a gm alt. that will put out 94amps at idle and 145 amps at speed. My car also has a 493 stroker with A/C and I never have to worry about overheating.
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Re: Champion Rad and OEM electric fan setups
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Are you going to run the stock fan and the electric or just the electric ? Ron
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Re: Champion Rad and OEM electric fan setups
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but I find the quality of aftermarket fans to be crappy to be honest
Probably due to the chinese brand that chinese radiators seem to use most of the time ?
I use a pair of high output Spal fans on my setup (non Mopar) and they work excellent.
For a killer OEM setup, the Mercedes one seems to really blow.
Spal is what I use as well.
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Re: Champion Rad and OEM electric fan setups
[Re: 383man]
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08/12/13 11:31 PM
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Are you going to run the stock fan and the electric or just the electric ? Ron
Would like to have just the electrics.
Also, this is for a small block car. Should have mentioned that in the original post.
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Re: Champion Rad and OEM electric fan setups
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I am using the dual contour fan with the spal controller, works good as long as its wired to the battery, if you go through the amp gauge, you are screwed! Tim Quote:
if your running a big block and a motor plate its tough to find a factory fan thin enough to fit. I have a ford contour dual setup on my car with a double pass crossflow rad that's 28 wide. It does an ok job of cooling my 499. But pulls a lot of amps. I cant seem to run it on 1 controller as it will burn it out. I have had to hook it to a toggle switch. But my 120 amp alt has no problem keeping the volts up when there on.
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Re: Champion Rad and OEM electric fan setups
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08/14/13 08:03 AM
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I am using the dual contour fan with the spal controller, works good as long as its wired to the battery, if you go through the amp gauge, you are screwed! Tim
I don't know how your car is wired but if you wire the fans to pull from the battery, the only time your fan's current won't be going through the ammeter is when the car is OFF. If the car is running (most likely) then the current is flowing from the alternator ---> bulkhead/fuseblock ---> ammeter ---> bulkhead ---> fusible link ---> starter relay ---> battery terminal.
So please do some research here and tap in to the alternator side of the ammeter for electrical loads. This will also keep your ammeter honest as drawing fan current towards the battery will show up as a charging condition on the gauge!
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Re: Champion Rad and OEM electric fan setups
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I am using the dual contour fan with the spal controller, works good as long as its wired to the battery, if you go through the amp gauge, you are screwed! Tim
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if your running a big block and a motor plate its tough to find a factory fan thin enough to fit. I have a ford contour dual setup on my car with a double pass crossflow rad that's 28 wide. It does an ok job of cooling my 499. But pulls a lot of amps. I cant seem to run it on 1 controller as it will burn it out. I have had to hook it to a toggle switch. But my 120 amp alt has no problem keeping the volts up when there on.
That's good to know, I burned up 2 hayden controllers. I will have to try the spal. My car is wired like a race car so no worry about the amp gauge it's not in use.
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Re: Champion Rad and OEM electric fan setups
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My Mercedes fan is wired directly to the alternator.
Works like a champ!
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