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Re: 400 vs 440 stroker. [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #1482590
08/16/13 05:25 PM
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All of the 400 blocks have a lot better main web in them than any of the 440 do That is the main reason I like to start with 400 block for a stroker motor if I have to use a stock block The after market blocks are a lot better, if you can afford to use them


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Re: 400 vs 440 stroker. [Re: Cab_Burge] #1482591
08/16/13 07:57 PM
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I have had 4 stroked 400 combos so you know what my answer is. The 451 in my 3100lb Demon went 10.07 with max wedge ported Indy SR's. My 69 Charger went 12.07 with a Eddy Rpm Headed 451. Demon went 9.56 with a 400 based 512 with the same Indy heads and same cam. I was lucky and found a 230 casting number block for the Demon. I put a 512 in the Charger and it went 11.39 with ported Edelbrocks Heads and a garbage converter. 1.72 60' Time!!!! All of these passes are at a track with 2200 feet actual elevation. The best corrected altitude was around 3300 - 3400 feet.

As you can see I am a fan of the 400 Stroker!


Thanx 451 Guy

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Re: 400 vs 440 stroker. [Re: 451Guy] #1482592
08/16/13 10:11 PM
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I agree the 400 has the best main webs but I think up to about 600 hp the 440 will work fine. I am using a 440 block in my 493. I went with the 440 block because I may go to the crossram one day as the crossrams are made to fit the 440 block. But mine has been holding up great for the two years its been in my 63. I race it sometimes and drive it all the time. I figure its making close to 600 hp at the flywheel and about 525 at the wheels to run 10.70's so far at 3700 lbs. Ron

Re: 400 vs 440 stroker. [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #1482593
08/17/13 01:58 AM
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600hp w a 440 block is a time bomb.I saw 2 diff ones blow in one year...they did beat on em,but who doesn't.400 block is the real deal.JMO

Re: 400 vs 440 stroker. [Re: fishy340] #1482594
08/17/13 09:20 PM
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Quote:

600hp w a 440 block is a time bomb.I saw 2 diff ones blow in one year...they did beat on em,but who doesn't.400 block is the real deal.JMO




I know alot of guys running 440 strokers that have held up fine. Most are street cars and probably make 500 to 600 hp. I have beat on mine pretty good for over 2 years. I agree over 600 hp on a stock 440 block can be pusing your luck but all the ones I have been involved in with 600 or less hp are holding up fine. Ron

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Re: 400 vs 440 stroker. [Re: 383man] #1482595
08/17/13 09:59 PM
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The 2 that i saw blow up,did it right along the pan rail.The other one split almost right down the center.

Re: 400 vs 440 stroker. [Re: fishy340] #1482596
08/18/13 01:51 PM
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Partial fill, studs, and a girdle..... I would think that a 440 block set up like this should be fine up to 600.

I run a studded 230 casting 400 block. I'm only making around 510 hp though. I figure if I ever rebuild the top end to make more beans, I have a block I can work safely with.


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