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Re: Who runs slicks W/O balancing? [Re: WHITEDART] #1475560 07/29/13 11:42 PM 07/29/13 11:42 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 298 Shelton, Ct. 5 572_HEMI_Cuda enthusiast
572_HEMI_Cuda enthusiast 5 Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 298 Shelton, Ct.	Quote: I have done it both ways. never felt any difference. so do what ever you fill safe with. but if a car got sideways with out the slicks having screws could the tire come off the bead that would been one of my fears If you are so far sideways traveling at a speed at which you feel the tire will come off the bead, you probably have bigger problems. That being said, I'll say it again, each individual driver needs to feel comfortable with balancing a tire or not.

Re: Who runs slicks W/O balancing? [Re: WHITEDART] #1475561 07/29/13 11:54 PM 07/29/13 11:54 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: I have done it both ways. never felt any difference. so do what ever you fill safe with. but if a car got sideways with out the slicks having screws could the tire come off the bead that would been one of my fears I lost control of my car at 135 mph..it was completely sideways(I'm talking 90* to the track) and up on 2 wheels...but I screw the tires on so I dont know if it would have peeled them off or not... but I run just under 7 psi in the slicks so I have a idea that it might have if not screwed on... that was before I put the wing on the back of my car... remember that the more pressure you run the less likely they are to peel them off EDIT I had the wheel cranked all the way over... I just got lucky and it finally straightened out and I didnt crash or hit the guy in the other lane which I ended up in Last edited by MR_P_BODY; 07/29/13 11:59 PM.

Re: Who runs slicks W/O balancing? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1475562 07/30/13 12:58 AM 07/30/13 12:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,351 Aurora, Oh. M max_maniac master
max_maniac master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,351 Aurora, Oh.	I have purchased slicks from Harlowe tire and they say to balance them. I have also purchased slicks and have taken them to 2 local tire guys who are racers and they say to balance them. Based on that I have always and will continue to balance the slicks... Russ

Re: Who runs slicks W/O balancing? [Re: max_maniac] #1475563 07/30/13 10:09 AM 07/30/13 10:09 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,365 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda I Live Here
an8sec70cuda I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,365 Marion, South Carolina [><]	I run mine screwed to the rim, but never balance them. Never had any issues. CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

Re: Who runs slicks W/O balancing? [Re: max_maniac] #1475564 07/30/13 01:17 PM 07/30/13 01:17 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	Quote: I have purchased slicks from Harlowe tire and they say to balance them. I have also purchased slicks and have taken them to 2 local tire guys who are racers and they say to balance them. Based on that I have always and will continue to balance the slicks... Russ Exactly.............why not just throw the crank and rods in un-balanced. I bet if all of those on here balanced their tires ALL of em would need some weight and the main reason is the overlaping of the cords weather bias or radial from what I`ve heard............ Last edited by Thumperdart; 07/30/13 01:51 PM. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Who runs slicks W/O balancing? [Re: Thumperdart] #1475565 07/30/13 01:25 PM 07/30/13 01:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,762 Hot Rod Ridge FastmOp master
FastmOp master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,762 Hot Rod Ridge	Screws and balance for me. I have a shake every time I don't balance and since I run tubes I need the tire to stay in place on the rim. My car became more consistant with the screws and tubes.

Re: Who runs slicks W/O balancing? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1475566 07/30/13 07:56 PM 07/30/13 07:56 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Quote: I dont know why you guys dont balance them.. I've had to add a lot of weight on some... I sure dont like them bouncing as I go down the track... hell I've seen them bouncing off the track(down track) but you guy do as you wish... I will continue to balance If your slicks are bouncing down track you need new shocks bad! Lol Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: Who runs slicks W/O balancing? [Re: 1967dartgt] #1475567 07/30/13 08:24 PM 07/30/13 08:24 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Not screwed, but bubble balanced. I mount them dry or a little soap and water. Fastest 300

Re: Who runs slicks W/O balancing? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1475568 07/30/13 08:38 PM 07/30/13 08:38 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Quote: Quote: Guys...I'm no expert..but I think after one burnout if you took the wheel off it would be out of balance again..just my thoughts... If you burn the rubber off all the way around it should still be in balance... if it were to bounce in the burnout it would burn the rubber off at different areas more than other areas... thats when I use to see the most irregular wear on my tires when I didnt balance and that got progressively worse with each burnout... I balance but you guys can do what ever works for you.. I dont say my way is the right way... but I see the pros doing it all the time and it works for them I guess you start and stop your burn out on the same spot on the tire every time. Dam your good I can never stop in the same spot as I started.lol Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: Who runs slicks W/O balancing? [Re: dvw] #1475569 07/30/13 09:01 PM 07/30/13 09:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida Locomotion master
Locomotion master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida	I've always balanced them. No screws now on my 9" slicks. I don't remember if I always screwed my bracket Challenger 14x32's years ago. I have a theory that the unbalanced, bigger, low pressure tires will not be felt as much as unbalanced, smaller, high pressure tires. I run my 9" slicks at 21 lbs. That also lessens the need for screws. I sometimes mark them and do see that they move a bit even at that pressure. They move back somewhat after I swap them side-to-side and eventually stabilize. It does bother me not to rebalance once or twice through the tire's life. But it's usually too inconvenient to do. Another theory of mine is that just because you don't feel it, it doesn't mean it's not there. It's splitting hairs, but if an unbalance is trying to move a tire up & down, even a bit, while going down the track, it's wasting energy that should be accelerating the vehicle forward. At some point, enough added weight may offset any benefits of a balanced tire. But I've seen some tire/ wheel combos balance better by just rotating the tire on the rim during mounting. Nothing is "perfect".

Re: Who runs slicks W/O balancing? [Re: Locomotion] #1475570 07/30/13 09:33 PM 07/30/13 09:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,616 Kissimmee Fl. D dusturbd340W5 master
dusturbd340W5 master D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,616 Kissimmee Fl.	this debate will go on forever I personally have never and will never bother to balance a true slick as they distort so bad going down track I see no way that they will stay balanced the whole run anyway. But to each there own 70 duster full chassis super pro 416 CNC Indybrock heads 727 w/brake best so far 1.212 60 6.219 in 1/8 at 110.88 9.768 at 137.81 1/4

Re: Who runs slicks W/O balancing? [Re: 1967dartgt] #1475571 07/30/13 09:46 PM 07/30/13 09:46 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: I dont know why you guys dont balance them.. I've had to add a lot of weight on some... I sure dont like them bouncing as I go down the track... hell I've seen them bouncing off the track(down track) but you guy do as you wish... I will continue to balance If your slicks are bouncing down track you need new shocks bad! Lol Those were brand new shocks... same ones I run now

Re: Who runs slicks W/O balancing? [Re: 1967dartgt] #1475572 07/30/13 09:48 PM 07/30/13 09:48 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: Quote: Guys...I'm no expert..but I think after one burnout if you took the wheel off it would be out of balance again..just my thoughts... If you burn the rubber off all the way around it should still be in balance... if it were to bounce in the burnout it would burn the rubber off at different areas more than other areas... thats when I use to see the most irregular wear on my tires when I didnt balance and that got progressively worse with each burnout... I balance but you guys can do what ever works for you.. I dont say my way is the right way... but I see the pros doing it all the time and it works for them I guess you start and stop your burn out on the same spot on the tire every time. Dam your good I can never stop in the same spot as I started.lol Do what ever the hell you want... I dont care

Re: Who runs slicks W/O balancing? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1475573 07/30/13 10:38 PM 07/30/13 10:38 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Guys...I'm no expert..but I think after one burnout if you took the wheel off it would be out of balance again..just my thoughts... If you burn the rubber off all the way around it should still be in balance... if it were to bounce in the burnout it would burn the rubber off at different areas more than other areas... thats when I use to see the most irregular wear on my tires when I didnt balance and that got progressively worse with each burnout... I balance but you guys can do what ever works for you.. I dont say my way is the right way... but I see the pros doing it all the time and it works for them I guess you start and stop your burn out on the same spot on the tire every time. Dam your good I can never stop in the same spot as I started.lol Do what ever the hell you want... I dont care Well I do! - and that's why I balance my slicks - although I am somewhat unbalanced myself. Fastest 300

Re: Who runs slicks W/O balancing? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1475574 07/30/13 11:14 PM 07/30/13 11:14 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Quote: Quote: Quote: I dont know why you guys dont balance them.. I've had to add a lot of weight on some... I sure dont like them bouncing as I go down the track... hell I've seen them bouncing off the track(down track) but you guy do as you wish... I will continue to balance If your slicks are bouncing down track you need new shocks bad! Lol Those were brand new shocks... same ones I run now So you are really going to tell me a few ounces made your shock lose control of your tire and it bounced going down the track under power? What brand of shock were you using? Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: Who runs slicks W/O balancing? [Re: 1967dartgt] #1475575 07/30/13 11:23 PM 07/30/13 11:23 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	So you are really going to tell me a few ounces made your shock lose control of your tire and it bounced going down the track under power? What brand of shock were you using? You dont want to believe me so I wont even bother.. but I will say it was more than a few onces... you do what you want... and I'll do what I want... done

Re: Who runs slicks W/O balancing? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1475576 07/30/13 11:30 PM 07/30/13 11:30 PM
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mopowered mopar Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 482 Dirty South, MS	Screwed here (a must), Balanced? Your joking right?

Re: Who runs slicks W/O balancing? [Re: mopowered] #1475577 07/31/13 03:50 PM 07/31/13 03:50 PM
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Whompin_Wedge mopar W Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 679 COLUMBUS, OH	Quote: Screwed here (a must), Balanced? Your joking right? I wouldnt say screws are a must, we have note screwed these (according to weld there was no need) and we have never had a problem. Been 1.28 60ft Casey

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