Tunnel Ram with Dual Quad on a 408 Stroker - your input
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I bought a 408 stroker with aluminum Edelbrock heads, 10:1 compression, big muthr thumpr cam with a hydraulic flat tappet cam.
I need your thoughts on:
1. Carb choice (Edelbrock says use two 500 cfm, and Holley doesn't answer their phone, but i've been told that two Holley 465 cfm are made for this application). 2. linkage (progressive or one-to-one) 3. mechanical or electric fuel pump
This will be used on a 70 Cuda, 4spd with choice of gears (3.55, 3.91, or 4.10s), 15x8" wheels and BFGs.
Not really interested in much track time, but mainly a street cruiser with a nostalgic feel and look, but clearly good throttle response and power to fry tires at will.
Tell me what has worked for you, and any pictures showing linkage are appreciated.
Thanks.
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Re: Tunnel Ram with Dual Quad on a 408 Stroker - your input
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I currently have a 360 with a Weiand tunnel ram and I run two holley 370 cfm carbs. I had two 450 holleys that Summit racing recommended for a tunnel ram but I could not get them to run well. I probably don`t have the HP of your stroker. Maybe others here with a combo closer to yours would be of more help. Also I do not run progressive linkage and I have a holley hp mechanical pump. I have some pictures but not on this computer. I can post them when I get back home. I run 4.56 gears and frying the tires is not a problem. Once I got the car tuned in the throttle response is awesome. Actually the car gets loose too easily. The car is a 77 Volare with a automatic trans.
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Re: Tunnel Ram with Dual Quad on a 408 Stroker - your input
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I might end up doing the same thing on my 408 thay has been for sale and nobody wants. Its a W2 408 with a girdle and built to run street/strip with ported heads. I have a single 4 barrel on it now, but I am thinking of putting the holley Dominator tunnel ram on it with a pair of 600 vacuum carbs. I have the 4150 top plate for it. My research from numerous sources keeps bringing me back to the Holley 600cfm vacuum secondary carbs. Now I want adjustability, because I want my car running 6.90's in the 1/8th on pump gas so best I have found are these from quick fuel. In my past dealings with them, they will customize to suit your needs. I do not need a choke horn or the weird vent tubes, but the adjustable air bleeds are a must along with the adjustable vacuum system....I also do not need the vacuum port at the bottom of the carbs. Just simple straight up vacuum carbs with adjustable air bleeds and vacuum spring adjustments. I als don't want somebody's old worn out junk either. These are real nice for the cash, and I think they might fit the bill if my engine does not sell. I can go nostalgic old school with a pair of these...
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Re: Tunnel Ram with Dual Quad on a 408 Stroker - your input
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Me thinks those that advocate using the Eddy or Carter 500 or 625 or 650 CFM carbs aren't thinking of the uneven air flow through the smaller primarys on those carbs Not so on the Holley 1850 Same thing on the Holley 650, 750 and 850 D.P. carbs, same flow through all four barrels
sure its something to consider(but following that logic forget about anything that dont have 1:1linkage betwen primary and secondary aswell leaving you pretty much with 660 centersquirters as the only option),but considering the original posters intentions i believe the 500cfm edelbrocks would be a good choice,since these carbs dont need much work to work good and they will be real snappy when just cruising around on those small primarys linked 1:1. got a good friend that did a straight swap from an Airgap and a wellsorted out 750 proform to a tunnelram with 2x500cfm edelbrocks and with the carbs straight out of the box the thing became alot sharper just cruising around and uses alot less fuel,its dead reliable and will start with just a quick twist of the key
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Re: Tunnel Ram with Dual Quad on a 408 Stroker - your input
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my friend that went to drag week with me hates edelbrock carbs with a passion. I have to keep reminding him that they are the reason we had no issues at all
I prefer the thunder series carbs
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Re: Tunnel Ram with Dual Quad on a 408 Stroker - your input
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I need your thoughts on:
1. Carb choice (Edelbrock says use two 500 cfm, and Holley doesn't answer their phone, but i've been told that two Holley 465 cfm are made for this application). 2. linkage (progressive or one-to-one) 3. mechanical or electric fuel pump
I have a stock stroke 360 w/ 3.23's and ran 12.56 @ 106 ( best mph being 108 ) in a 3430 lb car. The eddy street ram is the intake I used - great for the street - small plenum compared to others and it has been on there for at least 8 or 9 years now. I can get decent mileage & have swapped to EFI in 2010.
Here was the holley 390's and the lokar setup I used for them - it was the best setup as the carbs tied together and it all worked simple and easy. There was a different vac canister that tied them together so they would open up at the same time.
It ran pretty decent and I could get 17 mpg's with the 3.23's and 26" tall tires.
I went to FAST EZ EFI in 2010 and I gained 21 hp on the dyno ( more accurate tune probably ) and it really smoothed out the idle. The engine starts up and runs alot easier. It's not a bad setup at all.
Here are a few vids of the carb'd setup and the EFI setup :
Here is the EFI setup - the EZ system smoothed out my idle from a carb'd tunnel ram - i cant think of a instance that would be a worse condition to clean up then mine... it did, and it idles like i could never get it to before... took most of the shake from my car... I'm sure some people actually would not like the way it smoothed out the idle...
Notice the heater hose lines...
EFI VID HERE
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