Re: World VS INDY alum blocks
[Re: 605hemi]
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just askin but how can anybody look at a block and say its stronger! it may look stronger but is it really... it seems "theory" is the cause of alot of arguments on here in all kinds of threads with no proven data to back it up... just sayin! so what is the max HP of the indy block? also what is the max HP of the world block . does anyone have any proven data on this (other than looks)
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Re: World VS INDY alum blocks
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06/13/10 10:16 PM
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just askin but how can anybody look at a block and say its stronger! it may look stronger but is it really... it seems "theory" is the cause of alot of arguments on here in all kinds of threads with no proven data to back it up... just sayin!
so what is the max HP of the indy block? also what is the max HP of the world block . does anyone have any proven data on this (other than looks)
My World B1 motor nade 1017HP. But I'm sure you are asking about more than that. I am sure someone out there has one of both blocks in a blown or NOS application. That would tell the story for sure.
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Re: World VS INDY alum blocks
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06/14/10 05:11 AM
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I have an Indy block purchased in 2002. It has been in street & strip use ever since, maybe about 20000 street miles nad numerous of passes at the strip (& street) Last time dynoed the engine made 1571 hp and 1536 ft-lb, it has been this way for three years now. Not a single block problem yet.
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Re: World VS INDY alum blocks
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I remember go green had issues with sleeves! Can't remember what block but he makes big power,,, I guess everything and anything could have issues!
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Re: World VS INDY alum blocks
[Re: 605hemi]
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yes I realize that but the point is the holes are smaller than the other block manufacturers. making the indy block inferior in one of the most important areas of a block..oiling.
and I was wondering if anybody else was drilling them to match the bigger holes the other manufacturers have so I wouldnt have to add more external lines I believe the holes are smaller even than the factory block
on my first build i was running out of oil (12 quarts) on most passes, i had to overfill so i could make it to the finish. second build i opened them up a little more & restricted rocker arm flow. this improved things a bit, didn't need to overfill but still had to slip into N straight after a run as the pressure was dropping. third build i opened them up to 5/8(it's my biggest drill),no more running out of oil now, never seen more than 20 psi(rare) drop since the mod, but am planning to go dry sump in the near future.
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Re: World VS INDY alum blocks
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I would rather use top end restricter, return lines or a accusump system then flood the rotating assembly with return oil.Our own Indy aluminium blocks have literally 4 to 6 seasons on them and 100s of passes,the last count my 588" had 686 passes and Don's 605" was approaching over 500 passes.Pap Ross,Chaz and other have the same reliability. Go figure
On the wide pan rail Indy block. Is indy the only ones that make a pan for it? (Dragster style) Bob, your making me lean toward a 605 instead of a 572 for our Dragster. No power adders.
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Re: World VS INDY alum blocks
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06/14/10 10:21 AM
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I would rather use top end restricter, return lines or a accusump system then flood the rotating assembly with return oil.Our own Indy aluminium blocks have literally 4 to 6 seasons on them and 100s of passes,the last count my 588" had 686 passes and Don's 605" was approaching over 500 passes.Pap Ross,Chaz and other have the same reliability. Go figure
On the wide pan rail Indy block. Is indy the only ones that make a pan for it? (Dragster style) Bob, your making me lean toward a 605 instead of a 572 for our Dragster. No power adders.
As far as I'am concerned the 572" is an orphan,it does not show any gain from a 540".If your going to build for big cubic inch power than 600+" would be my choise and that's still small for todays standards.Charlies' Pans and others build the wide pans.Even with the standard pan rail we have solved the oil return and pressure problems with the afore mentioned,restricters,external lines or accusumps.
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Re: World VS INDY alum blocks
[Re: 605hemi]
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06/14/10 11:10 AM
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so you have an alum indy maxx water block and you have safely drilled the oil returns with no water jacket issues? that is what I want to do
Lets be sure which oil hole that are being referred to:the ones in the lifter valley or the ones at the lower corners of the heads.The ones in the heads have a offset to align up causing a slight restriction.make sure that these hole are free from any silicone and gasket interference.
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