Re: 4 speed in 56 Plym
[Re: ProStock1320]
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06/27/13 09:07 AM
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This will be a first for me; I've only ever messed with AT. I have this 56 Plymouth with a 383 & push button on the dash/cable shifted 727 trans. The trans is acting up & I'm ready to pull a big block 4 speed from behind a 400 in a 67 Barracuda I have and try gear jammin in the older beast. I can take everything from the A-Body; pedals, shifter, etc. So, the trans & engine will go together without problem. What else do I need to finish the install? Is there anything specific to the 56 I need to convert from auto to manual?
unless you go to some sort of hydrulic clutch set up you are going to need a Z bar and all the linkage from the pedal to the Z bar and from the Z bar to the throw out bearing fork,,all of it need to be the correct lengths or it either wont reach or function properly,, do soem research on any of the mopar forums on hydrulic clutch systems adn see what people have either adapated or built,,,unless u have a 56 laying around that was a stick shift car,,,
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Re: 4 speed in 56 Plym
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dont give up on the stick,,,it would be very kool,,,,if u can adapt the A body pedals to mount under your dash,,, the rest is easy if you go with a hyd set up,,,,use a standard throw out bearing and fork,,,u can use either a pusher or puller slave cylinder on the fork, and all u have to do is mount the master cyl properly and adapt the clutch pedal linkage properly,,, i have some pics from the unit i built on my barracuda if your interested,,,
1966 barracuda prostreeter super charged 340(SOLD)
1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod
2014 ram express hemi 4x4 dailey driver
2015 cherokee
2013 R/T classic
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Re: 4 speed in 56 Plym
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if you are going to make something you find at the junkyard work i would go with a 94 dakota pedal setup--then use the 90,s chev firewall bolt in adapter that knotches the clutch master into it (2 bolts)----if i was gonna buy something that works on everything i would go to speedway and buy a circle track brake and clutch setup....bob
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Re: 4 speed in 56 Plym
[Re: savoy64]
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a dakota pedal assembly would be the way to go,,,use a chev master ?? why ?? the dakota pedal assembly aready has a built in location for a stock clutch master cylinder and push rod,, use a slave cylinder with it you will be good to go,,,
1966 barracuda prostreeter super charged 340(SOLD)
1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod
2014 ram express hemi 4x4 dailey driver
2015 cherokee
2013 R/T classic
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Re: 4 speed in 56 Plym
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Personally, IF you can find the parts modifying a factory stick setup it is usually the easiest way to go but as mentioned finding a donor car may be the biggest problem.
The main thing I wanted to mention for those of you who have not done a MOPAR auto to stick conversion is the crankshaft of the engine. My experience has been that most 50's thru 70s MOPAR engines that come from automatic equiped cars are NOT drilled for a pilot bearing or the long input nose of the Chrysler stick transmissions.
On the last few MOPARs I've rebuilt I had the machine shop drill the crank before they sent it out to be ground just so I had the option down the road.
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Re: 4 speed in 56 Plym
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there is no need to drill the crank, you can use a dakota or jeep bearing, it goes in the big hole same hole as an automatic convertor register hole, you cut the input shaft on the trans to the correct length, thats how its done from the factory on a stick shift dakota and ram and jeep
Not exactly, the factory didn't lop the end of the input shaft off. The trans used was built correctly for the application. If you choose to use another trans you will have to bob the input shaft, but I won't as I look at it as a 1/2 donkey way of doing things.
i was just offering an option,,many many have done it already,,,the bearing stil supports the input shaft
1966 barracuda prostreeter super charged 340(SOLD)
1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod
2014 ram express hemi 4x4 dailey driver
2015 cherokee
2013 R/T classic
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