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REV-N-NATOR?
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06/25/13 12:38 PM
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Hi, I'm thinking of replacing the chrome box in my Challenger with a REV-N-NATOR . The Mopar boxes always seem a bit lacking in quality and I find that a rev limiter might be a good thing with the new carbs. Does anyone use it on their street car (rarely sees the strip)? Anything good/bad? Thanks
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Re: REV-N-NATOR?
[Re: Hrtbkr]
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06/25/13 12:59 PM
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I bought it for my hemi Coronet and it works great  There are several posts on the subject but besides there is no easy way to use vacuum advance with the Rev-n-nator it is a great product for street and strip. The Rev limiter and RMP display are also a great added feature. For the money and ease of installation you would not regret it.  As for the HP and torque gains, they vary. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0#Post6927491 
1957 Power wagon wm300 original 10.000 mile truck, 1964 dodge Polara Convertible numbers matching
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Re: REV-N-NATOR?
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06/26/13 05:09 AM
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I've read the threads over the last year or so but it seems like it opens two questions for every one that gets answered. BB65Barracuda, could you elaborate please? Quote:
There are several posts on the subject but besides there is no easy way to use vacuum advance with the Rev-n-nator
I'm not interested in any claimed hp/tq gains, just after a reliable ecu and rev limiter.
I can't afford this.
mark
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Re: REV-N-NATOR?
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06/26/13 06:59 AM
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That's what I did. Car runs awesome!!  IM sure the gas mileage is affected but if I was worried about mileage being a few off I wouldn't have a 426 Hemi in the first place would I?  Great Throttle response and rock solid timing. Granted I have only had it in the car about 500 miles but so far I'm very happy with it. I always have ran MSD products in all of my cars. The stock Ignition in my opinion is fine for most people to putt around with as long as it was a vintage unit. Unfortunately with the newer units you always have to carry a spare. Not a great selling point. But this unit is basically the stock case with new electronics. The rev limiter is a great feature for those of us that Beat on our cars and the Tach lights work well for setting your timing alone under the hood. It cost me 200.00 shipper to the house and It took me longer to unpackage than it did to install it. You can run at the track with the Ballast Resister Bypassed and hook it back up for the ride home. Neat little Piece. 
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Re: REV-N-NATOR?
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06/26/13 10:21 AM
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You can use a vacuum advance if you take the time to adjust it properly.
Keith
I guess this would be a reason why MP pulls timing out with the orange box , they are smarter than the average bear in part because there is not much if any aftermarket ... or factory ... support of vac cams with different amounts of mechanical advance vac cans .
Vac advance is a part throttle, fuel mileage aid ...
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Re: REV-N-NATOR?
[Re: Hrtbkr]
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06/26/13 11:14 AM
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OK. Heated controversy starts here. Haters, man your flame throwers. About six months ago, I got into a very heated discussion with them in another forum. I am NOT getting into details. You love them, hate them, or could care less. Things got ugly fast when I disputed their following claim: Quote:
4. 10-40 HP GAINS - depending on engine application. Kicks butt over all stock Chrysler boxes (orange, chrome, etc.) and meets or exceeds any leading after-market ignition systems.
Their proponents started a below the belt name calling attack but the bottom line was clearly this:
They NEVER, I repeat, NEVER, were able to produce actual proof that their product was anything more than a empty magic box. Every question I threw at them to explain something was only replied with "you're a hater, our customers love us, they say..." blah, blah, blah.
I tried my hardest to keep the discussion at an intellectual level and they could never respond except in a schoolyard bully fashion.
I'm still reading everything they say trying to convince myself they have defied the laws of electrical science. To this day, I'm still calling it a product that does nothing more than give a great placebo effect. If you mentally want it to give you out of the box 10-40 hp gain, it will give you a 10-40 hp in your mind. Their "dyno proven tests" are so flawed, you can drive a truck through the holes.
OK. I am not going to respond to the hate replies from those that drink the Kool-ade. Be happy with your Rev-N-Nator.
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Re: REV-N-NATOR?
[Re: Commando1]
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06/26/13 12:06 PM
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OK. Heated controversy starts here. Haters, man your flame throwers.
About six months ago, I got into a very heated discussion with them in another forum.
I am NOT getting into details. You love them, hate them, or could care less. Things got ugly fast when I disputed their following claim:
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4. 10-40 HP GAINS - depending on engine application. Kicks butt over all stock Chrysler boxes (orange, chrome, etc.) and meets or exceeds any leading after-market ignition systems.
Their proponents started a below the belt name calling attack but the bottom line was clearly this:
They NEVER, I repeat, NEVER, were able to produce actual proof that their product was anything more than a empty magic box. Every question I threw at them to explain something was only replied with "you're a hater, our customers love us, they say..." blah, blah, blah.
I tried my hardest to keep the discussion at an intellectual level and they could never respond except in a schoolyard bully fashion.
I'm still reading everything they say trying to convince myself they have defied the laws of electrical science. To this day, I'm still calling it a product that does nothing more than give a great placebo effect. If you mentally want it to give you out of the box 10-40 hp gain, it will give you a 10-40 hp in your mind. Their "dyno proven tests" are so flawed, you can drive a truck through the holes.
OK. I am not going to respond to the hate replies from those that drink the Kool-ade. Be happy with your Rev-N-Nator.
Sounds like the same crew of sword swallowers that love the CCJ from a certian board sponsor and it's condescending [censored] spokesmouth.
For the record I am neither here or there on this product, but I am on the bandwagon that the orange box is outdated and not as great as people think.
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Re: REV-N-NATOR?
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06/26/13 12:39 PM
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I have been skeptical about their advertising claims, and some of their statements have been really baffling. The baffling part is "If they are so smart as to design such a good box, how can they say such stupid things?"
If we look at the RevNNator as a really good orange box, or chrome box, and forget the hype, I can live with that. If this "really good" box uses digital technology, I am perfectly OK with that.
It's when the advertising BS starts flying that I lose my warm, fuzzy feeling. So, let's just leave it at being a really good orange or chrome box.
R.
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Re: REV-N-NATOR?
[Re: Hrtbkr]
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06/26/13 01:15 PM
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I was hoping for a plug n play product. I drive the car long distances a lot, so gas mileage is a factor (sad to say). What sort of adjustments do you have to do to make the vacuum advance work?
While outside on the turnpike
They got this new hit tune
Where thrills become as cheap as gas
And gas as cheap as thrills
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Re: REV-N-NATOR?
[Re: Hrtbkr]
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06/26/13 02:15 PM
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I was hoping for a plug n play product. I drive the car long distances a lot, so gas mileage is a factor (sad to say). What sort of adjustments do you have to do to make the vacuum advance work?
Chrysler vac cans are a set amount of advance it's stamped on the arm , the only adjustment is spring to change the rate the comes on , and it's only a certain amount done with a hex key thru the hose nipple. If you need to limit the amount of advance you either have to try and find one with less advance than what you have ... good luck mopar is the red headed step child of the aftermarket ... or modify the stop tab on the arm ...
I think ....
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Re: REV-N-NATOR?
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06/26/13 02:21 PM
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Most( not all) MP distributors have an adjustable vacuum advance that limits the amount of advance,but there were some that altered the amount of vacuum it took to operate it.
With the MP boxes pulling dwell,which directly affects timing ,if you tune for the shortcomings of the box then switch to one with no dwell being pulled out you have issues .
Now you have more total timing than you can use.
There will be skeptics no matter who makes a product,I think its sad that people pile on a bandwagon as soon as anyone doubts a product. Maybe the way things are said are taken too seriously .
I have tested the Rev N Nator on several of my own engines,on my dyno using my time and my fuel. They make power over the MP boxes for me. I know of several others who have done the same. One very well known engine builder that did not want to " waste his time" testing one was talked into it and couldn't understand how it worked so well.
It's not my place to throw him under the bus,but he used to say they were a gimmick but after seeing results for himself he now keeps quiet about it .
If people want to choose to believe me or not that is their choice. I never met Troy I just saw he was getting beat up on about his post so I offered some outside testing to see what I could find out
Keith
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Re: REV-N-NATOR?
[Re: JohnRR]
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06/26/13 03:05 PM
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I plugged mine in and it would not start the car. I plugged my orange box back in and it started right up. I have not had the time to call Troy yet to see what went wrong.
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But I could be wrong!
