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Re: Fuel flow thru reg? [Re: Thumperdart] #1453777
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We just ran all new 1/2 inch line from the pump to the reg, fuel tank on top of pump with a straight drop about 10 to 12 inches to the pump feed which is 1/2 also. Removed all filters for the tests, Pump seems a bit louder than normal?

Re: Fuel flow thru reg? [Re: bigtimeauto] #1453778
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no its not, sounds like you need a new pump





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Re: Fuel flow thru reg? [Re: emarine01] #1453779
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We just ran all new 1/2 inch line from the pump to the reg, fuel tank on top of pump with a straight drop about 10 to 12 inches to the pump feed which is 1/2 also. Removed all filters for the tests, Pump seems a bit louder than normal?


My pump made some horrible noises right before it locked up and burned down.......Which pump do you run?


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Any recommendations on pumps for around 650Hp give or take a few, how big of a pump do I really need?

Re: Fuel flow thru reg? [Re: Thumperdart] #1453781
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We just ran all new 1/2 inch line from the pump to the reg, fuel tank on top of pump with a straight drop about 10 to 12 inches to the pump feed which is 1/2 also. Removed all filters for the tests, Pump seems a bit louder than normal?


My pump made some horrible noises right before it locked up and burned down.......Which pump do you run?


BG 280

Re: Fuel flow thru reg? [Re: emarine01] #1453782
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Just buy the magnafuel 500, for the money difference its a no brainer. Your probably going to want to go faster at some point anyway.


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Thankx for the help

Re: Fuel flow thru reg? [Re: bigtimeauto] #1453784
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Just buy the magnafuel 500, for the money difference its a no brainer. Your probably going to want to go faster at some point anyway.


I've bought way to many smaller pumps before buying the biggest and best Same thing on regulators


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Same here and the 500 is a beast for sure but I went w/the 300 knowing it should handle any n/a junk I throw it`s way and I wil never run a power adder.


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Re: Fuel flow thru reg? [Re: Thumperdart] #1453786
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Same here and the 500 is a beast for sure but I went w/the 300 knowing it should handle any n/a junk I throw it`s way and I wil never run a power adder.




never say never.........


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Re: Fuel flow thru reg? [Re: bigtimeauto] #1453787
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I hear ya but I`m dumb and stubborne and n/a`s a big enuff challenge as it is especially in the suspension dept.


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Re: Fuel flow thru reg? [Re: Thumperdart] #1453788
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I had a Magnafuel 300 pump, according to Mganfuel it was marginal for feeding 700 HP using E85 so I bought a 500 pump to be sure, I will probally end up with two Ron Terminators on it on E85 in the future so the 500 pump will be adequate to feed those via a sump tank control by a float for the belt driven pum to feed off of


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I retested the BG 280 this morning and had the same results as yesterday, gal in 19 secs & 7 psi, I let it run dead headed @ 18 psi for 15 min and the pump motor was a little warm but not hot, amp draw was 13 to 14 @ 13.5 volts , pump still a bit loud, When testing I removed one flex line from the fuel log feeding the primary bowl, The fuel blasts out the line like a fire hose, This is a 6an flex line that y,s together after the reg, From looking @ the fuel flow I cant see how the float bowl cant maintain the level from the amount of fuel flowing out the line, took the needle out and checked for a clog, All looked good, Could it be that the float is not reacting fast enough? The old needles were .110 & I went back with .120s thinking the bowl would fill faster, The Holley reg has a .220 restriction the .120 needles x 2 =.240, The BG reg is larger but I don't know the size, The fuel log is attached to reg with a inside dia of .340 @ the entrance to the log than y,s off to the bowels, is this too small?, a # 8an line will flow more volume @ 7 psi, Its just hard to figure that this small block can need this much fuel, in the past the engine consumed 1 gal in the 4 mins we ran to make a pass, that's from the pits to staging, a 200ft blast and back around to the pits, That's been consistent for the past few years, Anyhow has anyone had a problem with a 6an fuel log being too small?

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my 520 ci. big block has 6an to the carbs and a holley big reg.it,ll run 9.30,s all day long with no prob.i have 120 needle and seat.

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The #6 line wouldnt be the problem BUT the Y might be
on the small side... all the AN fittings I use I normally
drill them out some so its just inside the seating area

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my 520 ci. big block has 6an to the carbs and a holley big reg.it,ll run 9.30,s all day long with no prob.i have 120 needle and seat.


Is it 2 / 6an lines, one from each port from the reg, or one 6an split to 2 bowels?

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my 520 ci. big block has 6an to the carbs and a holley big reg.it,ll run 9.30,s all day long with no prob.i have 120 needle and seat.


Is it 2 / 6an lines, one from each port from the reg, or one 6an split to 2 bowels?


two seperate lines,one from each side of the reg.

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my 520 ci. big block has 6an to the carbs and a holley big reg.it,ll run 9.30,s all day long with no prob.i have 120 needle and seat.


Is it 2 / 6an lines, one from each port from the reg, or one 6an split to 2 bowels?


I used to set up motors on Pettis`s dyno and some of the baddest had #6 lines and we tried #8 w/zero difference however on my junk I went by the Mopar Bible and have #10 to reg. and #8 to each bowl.............


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Re: Fuel flow thru reg? [Re: Thumperdart] #1453795
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The restriction that all the fuel goes through in a basic Holley regulator is what, 1/16"? It is not enough to be able ot correctly feed todays high performance engines, I would say it's only good for about 600 hp. The old pro stockers didnät make that much power, and they had one reg for each carb.


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2 6an lines one off each reg port to each bowl seems to have solved the problem, But she source of the problem was a kinked line @ the 90* bend to the front bowl that was hidden by the SS cover on the fuel line, When I did the flow testing I dropped that line and straightened out the 90 to go in the bucket thus fixing the kink, I found the kink from cutting the line to shorten it This was nothing but a frustrating fire drill where the testing made no sense, Thankx to all for the help.

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