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Daytona to Duster chassis change-over. update #1452696
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How hard and what would be the best way to go about taking a 7.50 certified mild steel chassis out of my daytona, approximately 93-97 inch wheel base to a Duster length car. I will double check the wheel base tomorrow but just kicking around ideas. I really want to leave my present 1970 Duster alone and build one last mid to low 8 second duster with my 572. My Daytona is a 2 person car so I want to build something fast and simple to scratch that last itch before I finish my racing days in the car I am racing now. I guess front would be the way to go but what issues am I looking at with the current Daytona width? Thanks guys for any ideas.



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1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Daytona to Duster chassis change-over [Re: pittsburghracer] #1452697
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not sure about the width but my tube chassis duster was a 108 wheel base


70 duster full chassis super pro 416 CNC Indybrock heads 727 w/brake

best so far 1.212 60 6.219 in 1/8 at 110.88 9.768 at 137.81 1/4
Re: Daytona to Duster chassis change-over [Re: pittsburghracer] #1452698
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How hard and what would be the best way to go about taking a 7.50 certified mild steel chassis out of my daytona, approximately 93-97 inch wheel base to a Duster length car. I will double check the wheel base tomorrow but just kicking around ideas. I really want to leave my present 1970 Duster alone and build one last mid to low 8 second duster with my 572. My Daytona is a 2 person car so I want to build something fast and simple to scratch that last itch before I finish my racing days in the car I am racing now. I guess front would be the way to go but what issues am I looking at with the current Daytona width? Thanks guys for any ideas.




Wont even come close to fitting... if you can weld
its easier to build a new chassis... myself... it
would be moly.... thats about $1100 in tubing... I'll
even sell you my hyd bender... I'm done building
chassis now days

Re: Daytona to Duster chassis change-over [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1452699
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How hard and what would be the best way to go about taking a 7.50 certified mild steel chassis out of my daytona, approximately 93-97 inch wheel base to a Duster length car. I will double check the wheel base tomorrow but just kicking around ideas. I really want to leave my present 1970 Duster alone and build one last mid to low 8 second duster with my 572. My Daytona is a 2 person car so I want to build something fast and simple to scratch that last itch before I finish my racing days in the car I am racing now. I guess front would be the way to go but what issues am I looking at with the current Daytona width? Thanks guys for any ideas.




Wont even come close to fitting... if you can weld
its easier to build a new chassis... myself... it
would be moly.... thats about $1100 in tubing... I'll
even sell you my hyd bender... I'm done building
chassis now days





never say never sell that bender and you will wish you had it in a short time.


70 duster full chassis super pro 416 CNC Indybrock heads 727 w/brake

best so far 1.212 60 6.219 in 1/8 at 110.88 9.768 at 137.81 1/4
Re: Daytona to Duster chassis change-over [Re: dusturbd340W5] #1452700
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How hard and what would be the best way to go about taking a 7.50 certified mild steel chassis out of my daytona, approximately 93-97 inch wheel base to a Duster length car. I will double check the wheel base tomorrow but just kicking around ideas. I really want to leave my present 1970 Duster alone and build one last mid to low 8 second duster with my 572. My Daytona is a 2 person car so I want to build something fast and simple to scratch that last itch before I finish my racing days in the car I am racing now. I guess front would be the way to go but what issues am I looking at with the current Daytona width? Thanks guys for any ideas.




Wont even come close to fitting... if you can weld
its easier to build a new chassis... myself... it
would be moly.... thats about $1100 in tubing... I'll
even sell you my hyd bender... I'm done building
chassis now days





never say never sell that bender and you will wish you had it in a short time.




Nope... I'm done... I can make money faster welding
or machining and I dont have the hassles... I have
way to much stuff already

Re: Daytona to Duster chassis change-over [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1452701
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Chrome molly is out. Kicking around either selling the Daytona or using the frame for a longer wheel-base duster. Sounds like the change-over is a bad way to go.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Daytona to Duster chassis change-over [Re: pittsburghracer] #1452702
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Check your PM Pittsburgh

Re: Daytona to Duster chassis change-over [Re: Chris Vanover] #1452703
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How hard and what would be the best way to go about taking a 7.50 certified mild steel chassis out of my daytona, approximately 93-97 inch wheel base to a Duster length car. I will double check the wheel base tomorrow but just kicking around ideas. I really want to leave my present 1970 Duster alone and build one last mid to low 8 second duster with my 572. My Daytona is a 2 person car so I want to build something fast and simple to scratch that last itch before I finish my racing days in the car I am racing now. I guess front would be the way to go but what issues am I looking at with the current Daytona width? Thanks guys for any ideas.


Well I got a chance to talk to the guy that updated my Daytona up to 7.50 cert and discussed my plans with him. He recently retired and is going to work strictly out of his shop now. He is going to be coming over in the near future to see if it can be done but he kinda thinks its possible. I can also buy my 72 duster that was my first race car and an original 340 4 speed car for 1500 dollars. This may just happen.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Daytona to Duster chassis change-over. update [Re: pittsburghracer] #1452704
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Why make the duster a tube chassis? Can't make a car go fast unless its a flyweight?


Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads
STR Chassis fabraction
Re: Daytona to Duster chassis change-over. update [Re: 1967dartgt] #1452705
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With Matt racing I am without help a lot of the time now and the Daytona is a rough car to race by yourself. I figure if I can get the duster around 2500 pounds very low 8's would be possible. The Daytona went high 8.40's low 8.50's with the 572 after just 8 runs with a new Barry Grant fuel pump and 440-1 heads and almost pump gas compression. My b1 heads are ready to go and flow a lot better plus I just picked up an alcohol set-up. I think Top Sportsman has to run 8.20 so I should be able to squeeze in.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Daytona to Duster chassis change-over. update [Re: pittsburghracer] #1452706
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deal pending Rons Flying Toilet Alcohol Fuel Injection - -This is a 4 in 1435 CFM set up for 500 in plus big block--was on winning car two weeks ago--great condition, comes with billet filtr, shut off cable, lines etc--The best alky setup you can get--easy to get them on and running great--drill and tap your runners, bolt on and go! I got in trade and just do not need--had to take it to get parts I wanted--owner was moving up to a double and bigger CI--Killer deal first $500 and it ships Free! Postal MO is my choice--long time Moparts member Thanks!!! jdk@ctc.net comes with every piece you need except crank pulley for belt ( about $30 at Killer Rons Fuel Injection)

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1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Daytona to Duster chassis change-over. update [Re: pittsburghracer] #1452707
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John...two person car???...I've been running the Arrow for almost ten years solo. The former owner told me it was a two person car also.


5.53 @ 125 1/8th on the launch control..more left in her!

Re: Daytona to Duster chassis change-over. update [Re: Eric] #1452708
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John...two person car???...I've been running the Arrow for almost ten years solo. The former owner told me it was a two person car also.




Ya but I race every weekend and it gets old real fast and I'm a lot older and fatter than you are. The duster I race now has made me lazy.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Daytona to Duster chassis change-over. update [Re: pittsburghracer] #1452709
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Way out in the sticks of Weste...
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Way out in the sticks of Weste...
Hey,

I think I know the curly brown-haired guy in that photo!!!

Was it that LONG ago that we only had one color in our hair???


"I've upped my horsepower, so...... UP YOURS!!!"
Re: Daytona to Duster chassis change-over. update [Re: DusterDog] #1452710
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If that's a real black 340 4 speed car, you might want to reconsider cutting it all up like that. Looks great with the Cragars in the picture.







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