440 source 1.6 aluminun roller rocker reviews WANTED
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Re: 440 source 1.6 aluminun roller rocker reviews WANTED
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Do you consider yourself a " gambling man" ?
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Re: 440 source 1.6 aluminun roller rocker reviews WANTED
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Do you consider yourself a " gambling man" ?
MAN ???
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Re: 440 source 1.6 aluminun roller rocker reviews WANTED
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I can't believe John is sitting so quietly !!!!
I have been threatened that if I don't have first hand info that I am not allowed to point out what has happened to others that have posted their tales of woe.
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Re: 440 source 1.6 aluminun roller rocker reviews WANTED
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Without doing a search on the topic, I suppose these are prone to failures?
most everything is prone to fail...just how much is the question,and you only hear of the failures,and never the successful ones.hard to gauge,but my dad always told me you get what you pay for,and this I find to be true. I would hate to skimp on rockers...lots going on there!
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Re: 440 source 1.6 aluminun roller rocker reviews WANTED
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Without doing a search on the topic, I suppose these are prone to failures?
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Re: 440 source 1.6 aluminun roller rocker reviews WANTED
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I would believe most are skeptical with heavy spring load applications but not with street applications. We should use Ed Pink's guarantee policy once it starts you own it. There are no guarantees with any performance parts no matter who the manufacturer is.
MLR426
The issue with the alum. body offshore rockers was the spindle the roller tips turns on is brittle and is breaking. Once broken the rocker body design can/will push on the retainer and pop the valve locks off the valve, the valve drops into the cylinder and one can guess the rest.
Rockers are one place you shouldn't really skimp as even these type rockers have broken with light hyd. flat tappet spring pressures.
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Re: 440 source 1.6 aluminun roller rocker reviews WANTED
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so i'm guessing no one has used these and can give an honest review?
I'm asking because an engine i'm buying has them installed by hughes engines
Hughes as in Dave Hughes ?
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Re: 440 source 1.6 aluminun roller rocker reviews WANTED
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Don't know about the 1.6 rockers but, we ran a set of 1.5s on the wife's 'Cuda. We ran them with a Crane solid roller cam for 4 years with no problems. Never any issues with the shafts or the roller tips. The only reason we are not running them now is that the heavy spring loads caused the bottom side of the rockers to crack. This is the same thing that happened to the Crane gold rockers we first tried. The engine by the way is a 440 Source stroker 512" that has been running and raced for 6 years now. I am sure there is a good reason to bash 440 Source stuff but, not all of us are made of money and have to try to save money where we can. If that means that I have to go against the popular ideals and buy from someone that I can afford their parts so be it. I normally don't rave on but I just felt I had to vent. Mike (Digger73)
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Re: 440 source 1.6 aluminun roller rocker reviews WANTED
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Don't know about the 1.6 rockers but, we ran a set of 1.5s on the wife's 'Cuda. We ran them with a Crane solid roller cam for 4 years with no problems. Never any issues with the shafts or the roller tips. The only reason we are not running them now is that the heavy spring loads caused the bottom side of the rockers to crack. This is the same thing that happened to the Crane gold rockers we first tried. The engine by the way is a 440 Source stroker 512" that has been running and raced for 6 years now. I am sure there is a good reason to bash 440 Source stuff but, not all of us are made of money and have to try to save money where we can. If that means that I have to go against the popular ideals and buy from someone that I can afford their parts so be it. I normally don't rave on but I just felt I had to vent. Mike (Digger73)
A solid roller usually is speced for high spring pressure , this is not the place for a solid body unbushed alum. rocker ... or an unbushed iron rocker for that matter. If the Cranes broke I wouldn't have expected a CCJ rocker of the same design to be any better.
That said you must not have had high spring pressures because ccj rockers have failed being run on hyd. flat tappets.
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