Re: Help with surge when cruising
[Re: crazyjjk]
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06/04/13 09:12 PM
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When mine had a surge, my timing was retarded way too much, and my tune was off because of a clogged up carb.
1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG
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Re: Help with surge when cruising
[Re: RapidRobert]
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06/04/13 10:40 PM
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Mattax
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Surge is excessive lean condition. Continue identifying under what conditions it occurs, and then there are only a few possibilities. As Robert suggests, could be a leak develop in the intake or carb gaskets. Could be dirt in the main jets or passages. Could be change in fuel, temperatures, or something and it was just borderline before. In that case, adjust the carb for richer cruise (see your Eddy manuals).
Last edited by Mattax; 06/04/13 10:41 PM.
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[Re: Junky]
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06/04/13 11:28 PM
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Re: Help with surge when cruising
[Re: crazyjjk]
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06/05/13 10:02 AM
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FWIW, my Magnum 360 crate engine surges slightly at cruising speed when I have vacuum advance connected. Tried tuning a little with it connected but found it just runs better and doesn't surge with the vac advance disconnected.
Facts are stubborn things.
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Re: Help with surge when cruising
[Re: Challenger 1]
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06/06/13 12:24 AM
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Also check this... Quote:
NO: 18-08-93 Rev. A SUBJECT: Engine Buck, Surge Or Noise - Oil Pump Drive Gear Wear DATE: Nov. 26, 1993 THIS BULLETIN SUPERSEDES TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN 18-08-93, ISSUED ON 6/18/93, WHICH SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM YOUR FILES. THIS BULLETIN ADDS CAUTIONS TO THE PROCEDURE, WHICH ARE HIGHLIGHTED WITH **ASTERISKS** AND PRINTED IN RED.
SYMPTOM/CONDITION: Vehicle exhibits warm engine surging, light bucking, or cold engine lack of power or burst spark knock. Engine noises (light knock or tapping sound at rear of engine) may also be experienced with no driveability complaint. These conditions may be caused by excessive oil pump drive gear wear.
DIAGNOSIS: Remove the distributor cap and grasp the rotor and using a rotational motion, check the total clockwise/counter-clockwise movement at the rotor tip. If the rotor tip movement is 5.0 mm (3/16") or more, proceed with the following repair procedure.
PARTS REQUIRED: Quantity Part No. Description
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53020546 Oil Pump Drive Gear
1
01737725 Block Bushing
REPAIR PROCEDURE: This bulletin involves replacing the oil pump drive gear with a revised part and the
drive gear block bushing.
1.. Remove distributor and distributor/oil pump drive gear block bushing as outlined in the appropriate service manual. **NOTE: TOOL NUMBER C-3052 (DISTRIBUTOR DRIVE SHAFT BUSHING PULLER) MUST BE USED TO REMOVE DISTRIBUTOR/OIL PUMP DRIVE GEAR AND TOOL NUMBER C 3053 (DISTRIBUTOR DRIVE SHAFT BUSHING DRIVER/BURNISHER) MUST BE USED TO INSTALL THE NEW DISTRIBUTOR/OIL PUMP DRIVE GEAR BUSHING.**
2.. Install new drive gear block bushing P/N 01737725 and revised oil pump drive gear P/N 53020546 as outlined in the appropriate service manual. **NOTE: THE CORRECT POSITION FOR THE DISTRIBUTOR/OIL PUMP DRIVE GEAR BUSHlNG IS SHOWN BELOW.**(See Illustration)
3.. Change engine oil and filter. 4.. Perform the required distributor indexing procedure as outlined in the appropriate service manual or use the alternate procedure outlined in steps 5-9. ALTERNATE DISTRIBUTOR INDEXING PROCEDURE
5.. Connect a voltmeter to the distributor sensor connector by removing the end seal and carefully back probing the connector. Connect the positive lead to the sensor output pin (pin 3, either a tan wire with a yellow tracer or a gray wire, depending on vehicle application). Connect the negative lead to the sensor ground pin (pin 2, a black wire with a light blue tracer). 6.. Rotate the engine clockwise as viewed from the front, until the number one mark piston Top (TDC) compression on the vibration damper should line up with the zero degree (TDC) mark on the timing chain case cover. 7.. Continue to rotate the engine slowly clockwise until the V6 or V8 mark (depending on engine type) lines up with the zero degree (TDC) mark on the timing chain case cover. The V8 mark is 17.5°after TDC and the V6 mark is 147° after TDC. NOTE: DO NOT ROTATE THE ENGINE COUNTER CLOCKWISE. IF THE ENGINE IS ROTATED BEYOND THE MARK, RETURN TO STEP 6 AND REPEAT THE PROCEDURE.
8.. With the distributor clamp bolt loose and the ignition switch in the ON position, rotate the distributor slightly in either direction until the voltmeter switches between the sensor transition point of 0 and 5 volts. 9.. Adjust the distributor as close as possible to either side of this transition point and tighten the distributor clamp bolt to 170-230 in. lbs. (19-26 Nm). POLICY: Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty.
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