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Re: hemi fuel pump reccomendation [Re: astjp2] #1446414
06/04/13 06:39 AM
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My racepumps mechanical pump is good for 1000 horsepower.
http://shop.racepumps.com/2000-Big-Block-Mopar-Standard-Pressure-50-PSI-2000.htm




That pumps costs almost as much as the Aeromotive pump I posted.
I like the flexibility of an electric pump. I start the pump and fill the fuel bowls before I try and start my motor. I also shut the pump off early and run the bowls down when I'm shutting down.

Re: hemi fuel pump reccomendation [Re: 73cuda340] #1446415
06/04/13 01:06 PM
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i bought a CV products billet mechanical pump for the dodge R5 engine off of ebay for $80. looks brand new and fits my 440, has -10 in -8 out. not sure of the psi or gph as i havent ran it yet. couldn't realy find any info out about it but i'm sure i'll need a regulator i'm running 2 500 edelbrocks and they don't like a lot of pressure. [image][/image]

Re: hemi fuel pump reccomendation [Re: rickseeman] #1446416
06/04/13 04:15 PM
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Most everybody is going to give you the same recommendation. Dual 500 gpm fuel pumps with -16 lines. All this get-a-big-fuel-pump crap started 25 years ago when the $400 Barry Grant fuel pump became a status symbol. The guy was a marketing genius. He made people with $500 cars want a $400 fuel pump. Wide open your car will burn around 40 gph. 110 gph should be enough. Carter makes a mechanical pump just like you want that doesn't use a regulator. I would give that a try.

The Saturn V rocket that took men to the moon had high fuel flow for liftoff. The first stage had 5 engines. Each engine had a 55,000 horsepower fuel pump. That's your fuel pump trivia for the day.




Right on!!! I totally agree.

Yup you guys need those huge fuel pumps...in your trunks too. That's a safe good practice...not.

The guy said mostly for the street, not 8500 rpm at the track. I drive mine on the street almost everyday and I'm lucky if I can rev it past 3000 grand and stay with in the speed limit.

That "POS" electric Carter above is a proven pump plumbed properly. Which BTW most don't plumb it right and then blame the pump.

And just because the motor is aluminum, does not change the fuel pump requirements unless there is no fuel pump mounting provisions. lol

Re: hemi fuel pump reccomendation [Re: Dragula] #1446417
06/04/13 10:01 PM
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This Carter pump should do you http://www.summitracing.com/parts/crt-p4600hp/overview/
With that much horsepower though you may end up dumping a stock type mechanical for an all external set up or one of the high flow piston type pumps
Gus





Are you kidding? The guy has an aluminum 528 Hemi, and you want to use the worst POS possible on it! You guys never change....


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This is the pump I've run for the last 7 years.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/aei-11101/overview/




Now that's a good pump. I have been running A1000 pumps since they came out, and had only one failure and it was just an o-ring that dryed out...





He's feeding up to a mechanical pump
Where the hell is all that fuel going once it hits the mechanical pump on the engine.

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Re: hemi fuel pump reccomendation [Re: Challenger 1] #1446418
06/04/13 11:37 PM
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Most everybody is going to give you the same recommendation. Dual 500 gpm fuel pumps with -16 lines. All this get-a-big-fuel-pump crap started 25 years ago when the $400 Barry Grant fuel pump became a status symbol. The guy was a marketing genius. He made people with $500 cars want a $400 fuel pump. Wide open your car will burn around 40 gph. 110 gph should be enough. Carter makes a mechanical pump just like you want that doesn't use a regulator. I would give that a try.

The Saturn V rocket that took men to the moon had high fuel flow for liftoff. The first stage had 5 engines. Each engine had a 55,000 horsepower fuel pump. That's your fuel pump trivia for the day.




Right on!!! I totally agree.

Yup you guys need those huge fuel pumps...in your trunks too. That's a safe good practice...not.

The guy said mostly for the street, not 8500 rpm at the track. I drive mine on the street almost everyday and I'm lucky if I can rev it past 3000 grand and stay with in the speed limit.

That "POS" electric Carter above is a proven pump plumbed properly. Which BTW most don't plumb it right and then blame the pump.

And just because the motor is aluminum, does not change the fuel pump requirements unless there is no fuel pump mounting provisions. lol




I disagree. An aluminum 528 hemi has to worth at least $15,000. It is worthy of a pump that will support the 700 hp it made on the dyno with out risking running out of fuel and leaning out the motor on the top end causing an engine failure. On the other hand a 440 built out of junkyard and swap meet parts might be worth trying the $100 controverial pump.

Re: hemi fuel pump reccomendation [Re: 73cuda340] #1446419
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Lots of different answers as I would expect on here and I fought fuel issues till I stepped up to the Magnafuel 300 pump and fixed those issues for good. Why someone woud even consider a budget mech. pump baffles me and you`ve apparently got a powerfull expensive motor so why risk it.


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Re: hemi fuel pump reccomendation [Re: 73cuda340] #1446420
06/07/13 03:19 PM
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I have a 528 hemi with two edelbrock 600s on it and the motor dynoed at 700 hp. What size fuel pump would you reccomend for this. The car will be mainly street driven with a few trips to the track. I will be running a mechanical pump and prefer to not run a regulator unless I have to. Will 110 gph be enough?




For street use the larger Holley/Carter/Edelbrock mechanical pumps are fine.

Once you hit the track, I think you'll run into a problem. First gear/fast climb in rpm and the g forces of a launch will task a mechanical pump.Remember, the mechanical pump needs to suck fuel from way back.

At this point I would go at least 150gph electric high pressure pump with a regulator. The high pressure helps push the fuel to the front easier. Use at least 3/8" line. 1/2" is best. Use a return line to the tank.

of course you could use a Race Pump mechanical.

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