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Racing Behind Jet Cars?? #1439318 05/20/13 02:34 AM 05/20/13 02:34 AM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 426 Cascade, CO reknapp52 OP mopar
reknapp52 OP mopar Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 426 Cascade, CO	Last nite Bandimere's had their "Night of Fire and Thunder" which features Nostalgia Fuel Dragsters, Nostalgia Funny Cars, and also Jet Cars, and draws a pretty large fan crowd. After the jets went, they ran the 3rd round of Super Comp cars, then the 3rd round of Super Gas, which I was a part of. From about the 1200' mark to the finish line, my car got to skating around pretty good, and it got a little hairy. After the run, and I got back to my pit space, I heard that one of the racers in the pair behind me had crashed just beyond the finish line--I am sure that it was from the kerosene residue left by the jet cars. The driver was OK, but his car is not, don't know if he will be able to rebuild it or not. Just a heads-up for anyone racing where they have jet cars booked in. 7712310-LebaronatTexasLODRS.jpg (53 downloads)

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: reknapp52] #1439319 05/20/13 04:13 AM 05/20/13 04:13 AM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 740 WA JD Dart super stock
JD Dart super stock Joined: May 2006 Posts: 740 WA	Yea it's a very bad to run after them unless the track work on the surface.

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: reknapp52] #1439320 05/20/13 09:05 AM 05/20/13 09:05 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Yea that's stupid. From what I have seen they run the jets last because of that problem. At least run super gas next and then super comp. Sorry to hear of the crash and I'd bet it's related to the jets.

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: reknapp52] #1439321 05/20/13 10:33 AM 05/20/13 10:33 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ Duner top fuel
Duner top fuel Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ	There's a reason they are referred to as "track oilers". Very sorry to hear of the torn up equipment and glad nobody got hurt.

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: Challenger 1] #1439322 05/20/13 10:49 AM 05/20/13 10:49 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA.	Quote: Yea that's stupid. From what I have seen they run the jets last because of that problem. At least run super gas next and then super comp. Sorry to hear of the crash and I'd bet it's related to the jets. Yaa that's a brilliant suggestion. Run the 100 inch wheelbase cars instead of the LONG wheelbase dragsters. I think you have been out of the sport for so long your not thinking straight to suggest that idea. How about fix the track or don't send anyone down it. Cheese and rice. 7712469-picard-facepalm.jpg (28 downloads) 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1439323 05/20/13 10:57 AM 05/20/13 10:57 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,142 Central New York slippery440 Crybaby440
slippery440 Crybaby440 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,142 Central New York	Yep Stopped going to anything that says Night Under Fire! Even with my slow junk it was bad.We refused to race at one of these races a few years ago because of the track was junk after the jet cars. More racers should do that. Can not imagine a fast car on small tires or even slicks. If the MODS did their job I would not be hitting the notify MOD button. LOL

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1439324 05/20/13 10:57 AM 05/20/13 10:57 AM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 635 mississippi bentwheel43 mopar
bentwheel43 mopar Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 635 mississippi	Yes they do use 24gl. in the 1/8.I did some videos and a fast dragster almost lost it at 130mph. http://s93.photobucket.com/user/bentwheel43/media/Mobile%20Dragway%202010%20Videos/SMOV0099.mp4.html Section 8 Racing We are nuts about racing.

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: slippery440] #1439325 05/20/13 11:02 AM 05/20/13 11:02 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,185 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,185 Park Forest, IL	Quote: Yep Stopped going to anything that says Night Under Fire! Even with my slow junk it was bad.We refused to race at one of these races a few years ago because of the track was junk after the jet cars. More racers should do that. Can not imagine a fast car on small tires or even slicks. Back in the old days they used to run bikes and street cars after the jets. But hey, that was before they even did track prep so there really wasn't much difference. They tried running the fast cars first at US 30 and they refused to run after Tommy Dargewich almost crashed. So out came the street cars. "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: slantzilla] #1439326 05/20/13 11:49 AM 05/20/13 11:49 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ Duner top fuel
Duner top fuel Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ	Around here they also smash cars on the dragstrip with Monster trucks and then clean-up about 90% of the debris and want to send cars down. That cost me a set of slicks already, and I'm not too interested about repeating that mistake. Now I just don't run the Monster Truck Night of Fire circuses. Well, the USED to. Now we have no drag strips, so I guess I won't have to worry about it.

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: Duner] #1439327 05/20/13 12:50 PM 05/20/13 12:50 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 426 Cascade, CO reknapp52 OP mopar
reknapp52 OP mopar Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 426 Cascade, CO	So, kinda off the subject, but is Firebird now a definate NO-GO?? 7712599-LebaronatTexasLODRS.jpg (47 downloads)

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: reknapp52] #1439328 05/20/13 01:07 PM 05/20/13 01:07 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ Duner top fuel
Duner top fuel Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ	The grandstands were removed and it's closed. That's all I know for sure. Supposedly they will reopen in time for the National event next February. I have no clue about whether they will actually open again before then or if there will ever be any more than just a National event there once a year. For now, everyone has either parked their stuff or it towing it to Tucson or out of state to race.

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: Duner] #1439329 05/20/13 01:30 PM 05/20/13 01:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,375 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,375 Las Vegas	We generally run after the jet cars at the Fallon divisonal...It SUCKS...The entire track is prety much a mess so I try to come up as late as possible. Wont make Fallon this year so thats one thing I dont need to worry about I guess. "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: Al_Alguire] #1439330 05/20/13 02:08 PM 05/20/13 02:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio dartman366 I Live Here
dartman366 I Live Here Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio	Even as well as Norwalk preps the track I wil not run one of those events ever again, did once when my car was less power than it is now and the results were as stated above,,part way down track and started to skate around,,,,,I hate skating. Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: dartman366] #1439331 05/20/13 03:07 PM 05/20/13 03:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,375 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,375 Las Vegas	Awe come on skating at 160 is fun "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: Al_Alguire] #1439332 05/20/13 03:11 PM 05/20/13 03:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio dartman366 I Live Here
dartman366 I Live Here Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio	Quote: Awe come on skating at 160 is fun I was only running 116/117 at the time and that was enough,,,,worse part was prying my fingers from the steering wheel at the ET shack so I could take the ticket from the guy. Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: Al_Alguire] #1439333 05/20/13 03:40 PM 05/20/13 03:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,142 Central New York slippery440 Crybaby440
slippery440 Crybaby440 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,142 Central New York	Quote: Awe come on skating at 160 is fun It may have been fun but its a son of a gun to clean up the skid marks and those are not on the track. If the MODS did their job I would not be hitting the notify MOD button. LOL

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: Al_Alguire] #1439334 05/20/13 03:52 PM 05/20/13 03:52 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 426 Cascade, CO reknapp52 OP mopar
reknapp52 OP mopar Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 426 Cascade, CO	Al--If you don't make the Fallon race, you could consider joining us at the Div 5 race the following weekend in Denver. A little farther tow............ 7712814-LebaronatTexasLODRS.jpg (30 downloads)

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: reknapp52] #1439335 05/20/13 04:33 PM 05/20/13 04:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,955 United Socialist States of Ame... T tboomer Too Many Posts
tboomer Too Many Posts T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,955 United Socialist States of Ame...	Was it a Volkswagon that wrecked? My buddy was running the Nostalgia fuel car out there..He said the place was packed!! I think he ran 5.90...Said the corrected alt. was 8500!! Need your rear end checked out? Contact Grizzly!!

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: tboomer] #1439336 05/20/13 05:47 PM 05/20/13 05:47 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA.	Quote: Was it a Volkswagon that wrecked? My buddy was running the Nostalgia fuel car out there..He said the place was packed!! I think he ran 5.90...Said the corrected alt. was 8500!! No way would I want that place as a home track. http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-alti...;time=4:53%20PM 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: JD Dart] #1439337 05/20/13 09:09 PM 05/20/13 09:09 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,751 Graham, WA P Polarapete top fuel
Polarapete top fuel P Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,751 Graham, WA	In my experience it is a bad idea to even be in the staging lanes behind the jets because when they leave they blow all the small debris back into the lanes and if your trying to do some between rounds maintenance on your valve train with the covers off guess where all that stuff goes... 1986 Dodge Ramcharger 440 2wd, Bracket Racer Under Construction 1998 Ram 2500 QuadCab, new daily driver. 2008 Honda Element 2014 Carry-On 7x14 Cargo Trailer

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: tboomer] #1439338 05/20/13 10:55 PM 05/20/13 10:55 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 426 Cascade, CO reknapp52 OP mopar
reknapp52 OP mopar Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 426 Cascade, CO	tboomer--Yes the car that crashed is a BBC powered VW, owned by Jason Schade, I believe that he won one of the Div 7 races at Firebird in late Feb/early Mar. As far as the DA, I don't think my tag ever went over 7600 or so. However, the 8500 DA is not at all uncommon, especially in summer months, and I know there have been times when it was over 10,000 at Bandimere. On a typical summer race day you might see 6600' when you first run in the morning, then DA will climb to maybe 9200' by mid afternoon, then as sun sets, it will drop into the 7000' range. Coupled with changeable winds, and frequent afternoon showers, tuning to run the super classes indexes can be a real challenge. My throttle-stop settings can go from 2.55 seconds to 1.60 in the course of 1 days racing. 7713316-LebaronatTexasLODRS.jpg (32 downloads)

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: slantzilla] #1439339 05/20/13 11:20 PM 05/20/13 11:20 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Quote: Yep Stopped going to anything that says Night Under Fire! Even with my slow junk it was bad.We refused to race at one of these races a few years ago because of the track was junk after the jet cars. More racers should do that. Can not imagine a fast car on small tires or even slicks. Back in the old days they used to run bikes and street cars after the jets. But hey, that was before they even did track prep so there really wasn't much difference. They tried running the fast cars first at US 30 and they refused to run after Tommy Dargewich almost crashed. So out came the street cars. was there and did that - Not fun even at 118. Fastest 300

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: reknapp52] #1439340 05/20/13 11:25 PM 05/20/13 11:25 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: So, kinda off the subject, but is Firebird now a definate NO-GO?? Per some ADRA honcho's I talked to last weekend, it will reopen next year. They have hired a new track manager. Bondurant and the jet boat people are already on board. The new stands they are installing will have shade and inclosed box seats. Fastest 300

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: Crizila] #1439341 05/20/13 11:45 PM 05/20/13 11:45 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 426 Cascade, CO reknapp52 OP mopar
reknapp52 OP mopar Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 426 Cascade, CO	Thanks for the update--that's good news for us snowbirds, as I'm sure it is for you guys living in AZ. 7713402-LebaronatTexasLODRS.jpg (47 downloads)

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: reknapp52] #1439342 05/20/13 11:57 PM 05/20/13 11:57 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Thanks for the update--that's good news for us snowbirds, as I'm sure it is for you guys living in AZ. 10-4! Having to haul my shat box to Tucson is putting a big dent in my racing budget - she said 7713423-pitcrew3.jpg (34 downloads) Fastest 300

Re: Racing Behind Jet Cars?? [Re: Crizila] #1439343 05/21/13 10:05 AM 05/21/13 10:05 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ Duner top fuel
Duner top fuel Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ	I heard THAT from over here!

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