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Oil Pan bolt stripped into the timing cover, fix? #1439033 05/19/13 07:45 PM 05/19/13 07:45 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 958 eastern, pa. C cudabitten OP super stock
cudabitten OP super stock C Joined: May 2008 Posts: 958 eastern, pa.	Just got finished installing my oil pan and the last bolt which goes into the timing cover stripped. So whats a good way to fix? Prefer leaving the oil pan on.

Re: Oil Pan bolt stripped into the timing cover, fix? [Re: cudabitten] #1439034 05/19/13 07:47 PM 05/19/13 07:47 PM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	If it's an outer bolt you can use a longer bolt & use a nut... "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: Oil Pan bolt stripped into the timing cover, fix? [Re: cudabitten] #1439035 05/19/13 07:47 PM 05/19/13 07:47 PM
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Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Pull the cover and helicoil it. Some might suggest a larger diameter bolt and rethreading the cover, but that's a poor choice, imo. They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: Oil Pan bolt stripped into the timing cover, fix? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1439036 05/19/13 07:53 PM 05/19/13 07:53 PM
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Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,822 Kirkland, Washington	Quote: If it's an outer bolt you can use a longer bolt & use a nut... That would be the quick and easy "git er done" fix!

Re: Oil Pan bolt stripped into the timing cover, fix? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1439037 05/19/13 08:09 PM 05/19/13 08:09 PM
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cudabitten OP super stock C Joined: May 2008 Posts: 958 eastern, pa.	Ive done the heilacoil thing a long time ago on something....but the longer bolt and nut!!!thats a very cool idea.Dont know why I dont think of that stuff. I could actually do both sides so they match. Thanks.

Re: Oil Pan bolt stripped into the timing cover, fix? [Re: cudabitten] #1439038 05/19/13 08:55 PM 05/19/13 08:55 PM
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scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	you have come this far so dont goober it up on the hickabilly bolt/nut trick. pull the cover or the pan and put a helicoil insert into the t-cover,make sure to remove the tang on the coil before running the bolt thru it. I have a cover that both holes have been done this way for a long while now. my one SB alum intake has had a helicoil put into every bolt hole with threds on it. fix it once and be done with it. you dont want a goober nut/bolt on a nice painted engine.

Re: Oil Pan bolt stripped into the timing cover, fix? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1439039 05/19/13 10:29 PM 05/19/13 10:29 PM
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Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	I usually end up helicoiling any aluminum threads on my engines. I spent the money for the kits years ago and it's paid for itself more than once. Just cheap penny pinching to built it that way by the manufacturers. They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: Oil Pan bolt stripped into the timing cover, fix? [Re: Supercuda] #1439040 05/19/13 10:47 PM 05/19/13 10:47 PM
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cudabitten OP super stock C Joined: May 2008 Posts: 958 eastern, pa.	Ok, you guys are right. I probably would have put the nut on there and looked at it for 20 min, then jumped in my car to find a helicoil kit. Plus engine is upside down on stand with only the 4 bottom bolts holding the timing cover on. I can have it off in less than a minute.

Re: Oil Pan bolt stripped into the timing cover, fix? [Re: cudabitten] #1439041 05/19/13 11:56 PM 05/19/13 11:56 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	My vote, use a longer bolt/nut. The cover is on & gasketed/the nut or nuts (2 if you do both) down below wont show/your not shortcutting any procedure live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Oil Pan bolt stripped into the timing cover, fix? [Re: RapidRobert] #1439042 05/20/13 12:03 AM 05/20/13 12:03 AM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Quote: My vote, use a longer bolt/nut. The cover is on & gasketed/the nut or nuts (2 if you do both) down below wont show/your not shortcutting any procedure Robert, your sounding like as much of a hack as I am.... "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: Oil Pan bolt stripped into the timing cover, fix? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1439043 05/20/13 03:07 AM 05/20/13 03:07 AM
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RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: Robert, your sounding like as much of a hack as I am. I'm in good company . If the cover comes back off since SB's dont have locating dowels like BB's do dont forget to install the timing cover with gasket/gasket cement with its' cover bolts on but partly tightened but loose so the cover can still move a bit then get the dampener started on the crank snout in past the seal aways which will center the timing cover then finish tightening the timing cover bolts live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Oil Pan bolt stripped into the timing cover, fix? [Re: RapidRobert] #1439044 05/20/13 09:58 AM 05/20/13 09:58 AM
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jlatessa pro stock J Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,317 Ohio	Excellent point Robert, wish that was my idea......Joe

Re: Oil Pan bolt stripped into the timing cover, fix? [Re: cudabitten] #1439045 05/20/13 12:22 PM 05/20/13 12:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,992 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,992 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Ok, you guys are right. I probably would have put the nut on there and looked at it for 20 min, then jumped in my car to find a helicoil kit. Plus engine is upside down on stand with only the 4 bottom bolts holding the timing cover on. I can have it off in less than a minute. If ythe engine is still on the stand fixing it the right way makes sense , if it were in the car and you needed to get it fixed for the morning commute then the longer bolt and nut is the way to go . I also helicoil alum threads I know will come apart more than once in a lifetime. I have done a few transmission jobs that have had the pan, pump and valvebody holes all helicoiled while I have it on the bench.

Re: Oil Pan bolt stripped into the timing cover, fix? [Re: JohnRR] #1439046 05/21/13 08:18 AM 05/21/13 08:18 AM
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babarracuda pro stock B Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,465 Carson City, NV	Isn't a helicoil longer than the width of the cover hole? I guess you could put in the heicoil with permanent thread bonder and after it dries, cut off the excess that sticks out on the top. A long bolt and nut seems the simplest fix to me.

Re: Oil Pan bolt stripped into the timing cover, fix? [Re: babarracuda] #1439047 05/21/13 10:53 AM 05/21/13 10:53 AM
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RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: A long bolt and nut seems the simplest fix to me. A person could use a high grade nut that is half the width of a regular nut & when it's all painted it would look very unobtrusive down there live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Oil Pan bolt stripped into the timing cover, fix? [Re: babarracuda] #1439048 05/21/13 11:44 AM 05/21/13 11:44 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,992 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,992 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Isn't a helicoil longer than the width of the cover hole? I guess you could put in the heicoil with permanent thread bonder and after it dries, cut off the excess that sticks out on the top. A long bolt and nut seems the simplest fix to me. Helicoils come in a variety of lengths, you can buy a KIT that is a little more costly than the Ace hardware kit that has 3 different length coils . Or you can trim a as many turns off as necessary BEFORE installing one by using a dremel with a tiny cutoff wheel , I've done it multiple times.

Re: Oil Pan bolt stripped into the timing cover, fix? [Re: JohnRR] #1439049 05/21/13 12:27 PM 05/21/13 12:27 PM
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dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	BS on the whole Helicoil/bolt-and-nut idea. This is exactly the right place for Permatex Form-A-Thread. Just clean it up really well with lacquer thinner and do it. If it can hold the handle on my 13" fryingpan, it can sure as heck work in this application. R.

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