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External suction lines in bottom of pan #1431459 05/06/13 09:24 PM 05/06/13 09:24 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 976 ontario canada mac56 OP super stock
mac56 OP super stock Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 976 ontario canada	Is there a problem with putting the external oil lines in the very bottom of the oil pan? This is a 4x4 pull truck so it is protected but will it create a tornado effect like a toilet having them in the floor of the pan? Thanks

Re: External suction lines in bottom of pan [Re: mac56] #1431460 05/06/13 09:49 PM 05/06/13 09:49 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Cant see why it would cause any issue but its still gonna be hanging down there waiting to get busted off

Re: External suction lines in bottom of pan [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1431461 05/06/13 10:05 PM 05/06/13 10:05 PM
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mac56 OP super stock Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 976 ontario canada	They will be above the front axle Mike so I think they will be safe. Trying to stay away from the turbos.

Re: External suction lines in bottom of pan [Re: mac56] #1431462 05/06/13 10:28 PM 05/06/13 10:28 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: They will be above the front axle Mike so I think they will be safe. Trying to stay away from the turbos. You should be fine putting them in the bottom

Re: External suction lines in bottom of pan [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1431463 05/06/13 11:11 PM 05/06/13 11:11 PM
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jamesc master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey	it's called a vortex and yes it will happen to some extent it's a matter of flow rate how much idk. if it's an issue you can put a vortex breaker across the opening which would be just a small strip of metal. i would be careful about the pump suction(s) air doesn't do much for the bearings. this pic shows a cross though it seems to me i remember seeing vessel outlets that only had a bar.

Re: External suction lines in bottom of pan [Re: jamesc] #1431464 05/07/13 09:49 AM 05/07/13 09:49 AM
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mac56 OP super stock Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 976 ontario canada	Thanks for the proper terminology Jim. We will be using 2 lines and thought that in it self would disturb any vortex action, but your picture would be easy enough to do.

Re: External suction lines in bottom of pan [Re: mac56] #1431465 05/07/13 09:54 AM 05/07/13 09:54 AM
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Dodgeguy101 mopar D Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 632 MD-USA	Just throwing this out there, but if something comes loose in the engine and it goes down thru holes and the lines, looks like it could lock the pump up before you realized it. At least with some type of screen in there that would prevent it. I would think you want something in there to filter it, if not something like a screen.

Re: External suction lines in bottom of pan [Re: Dodgeguy101] #1431466 05/07/13 10:31 AM 05/07/13 10:31 AM
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jamesc master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey	Quote: Just throwing this out there, but if something comes loose in the engine and it goes down thru holes and the lines, looks like it could lock the pump up before you realized it. At least with some type of screen in there that would prevent it. I would think you want something in there to filter it, if not something like a screen. i would not run any pump oil, fuel or otherwise without something to catch scrap before it enters the pump.

Re: External suction lines in bottom of pan [Re: jamesc] #1431467 05/07/13 10:37 AM 05/07/13 10:37 AM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: Just throwing this out there, but if something comes loose in the engine and it goes down thru holes and the lines, looks like it could lock the pump up before you realized it. At least with some type of screen in there that would prevent it. I would think you want something in there to filter it, if not something like a screen. i would not run any pump oil, fuel or otherwise without something to catch scrap before it enters the pump. All my suction lines have a screen filter prior to the pump.... to me thats a MUST HAVE

Re: External suction lines in bottom of pan [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1431468 05/07/13 01:33 PM 05/07/13 01:33 PM
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mac56 OP super stock Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 976 ontario canada	Quote: Quote: Quote: Just throwing this out there, but if something comes loose in the engine and it goes down thru holes and the lines, looks like it could lock the pump up before you realized it. At least with some type of screen in there that would prevent it. I would think you want something in there to filter it, if not something like a screen. i would not run any pump oil, fuel or otherwise without something to catch scrap before it enters the pump. All my suction lines have a screen filter prior to the pump.... to me thats a MUST HAVE We will screen them.

Re: External suction lines in bottom of pan [Re: mac56] #1431469 05/07/13 03:11 PM 05/07/13 03:11 PM
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cudaman1969 master C Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,313 fredericksburg,va	If the engine is not blown up where would the pieces come from? All you are saving is the oil pump and restricting oil to it because a filter is on the other side anyway. It's over so fast you don't stand a chance.

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