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Talk me out of it
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05/02/13 04:08 PM
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Richard Cranium
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I've been thinking a lot about the color of my Super Bee lately. When I started the restoration in 2005, I absolutely hated the original color of Y4 gold. The original engine was long gone, and there was no build sheet. I decided to paint the car a color I would have ordered if I bought it in 1969. I looked over original color charts, and decided on 999 Vitamin C orange. Two years into the restoration, I discovered that no Super Bees were painted this color. Still, the car looked great and the restoration was completed in 2008. This was a rotisserie restoration, so the entire body was painted orange. A couple years ago, I saw a Dart with a fresh coat of Y4. Like my Bee, it had a white interior, stripe and top. It looked pretty amazing. So, I have been wondering what it would cost to change my car back to it's proper color. Cost is definitely a consideration, but keep this in mind - my Bee is not an investment. I will never get back what I put into it. That's never been the objective. It's a car I plan to keep for a long time. It seems like if I were to do this, it would be best to do it while everything is still factory fresh. I think I know what it would cost to do this, but I'd like to hear your opinions. 
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Re: Talk me out of it
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05/02/13 04:56 PM
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Any other reasons for wanting to switch back? Is the orange constantly gnawing at the back of your mind? I think it looks awesome as-is, and I wouldn't pay more money to change such a great job. Doesn't matter if it wasn't available per-se. Just pretend someone got it off the lot and painted it  Colors grow on you over time. Like said, can always put it back to another color later once this paint job gets worn out.
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Re: Talk me out of it
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05/02/13 05:44 PM
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I loved orange for the first couple years. Then, I started seeing properly done gold cars.
The more I saw, the more I regretted going with orange. I mean, it looks pretty amazing the way it is, but I have become more of a purist over the past few years.
*1969 383 4sp. Super Bee
*1966 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT
*1965 Porsche 356C
*2004 VW Passat Wagon
*2004 Mini Cooper S
*1967 Jaguar E-Type FHC
A mall cop is in our midst.
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Re: Talk me out of it
[Re: new bee]
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05/02/13 06:09 PM
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Wait 40 years till it needs a paint job
I'll be 88!
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sounds like a good reason to start a new car
That is something I have been thinking a lot about too. Currently, I run my own business, which takes a lot of my time (today I have a breather from the action).
My wife and I live in a 1200 sq ft house with a 1 car garage, so I don't have the space to take on another project. We already have two other classics in storage. We are hoping to upgrade in the next couple years, so getting a shop is a possibility.
The other option is to sell the Bee and find another car closer to what I want - originality.
This is a heart-breaking thing to even type since it was my first restoration and the car has been a show winner at several concours events. I mean, the car is kinda part of the family.
Doesn't sound like you have the time now to do as much work restotring a car as you did with the Bee originally.
Be patient and constantly looking for the "right" car to replace it. Hopefully something local you can see in person. Then be ready willing and able to pounce on it.
Then sell your Orange Bee.
But you will need to create your own destiny. So you need to sort of get out there to events and functions and drop hints of looking for suitable replacement cars. Sounds like you get out allready, so maybe just drop the hints and communicate. At the same time you probably will line up potential buyers for the Orange Bee.
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Re: Talk me out of it
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05/02/13 06:43 PM
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So, what might this color change cost?
*1969 383 4sp. Super Bee
*1966 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT
*1965 Porsche 356C
*2004 VW Passat Wagon
*2004 Mini Cooper S
*1967 Jaguar E-Type FHC
A mall cop is in our midst.
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Re: Talk me out of it
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05/02/13 06:46 PM
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You need to sell that Bee as quick as possible.  Don't even think twice. I only know of one guy on the planet who goes nuts for Vitamin C. MOPARS. Check out this BIRD I sold and still am kicking myself.  So please do the honorable thing and PM me before someone talks sense into you.  I will make this problem go away in a PAIR of SECONDS! If the rest of this machine is as stunning as the color, let's play MAKE A DEAL. 
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Re: Talk me out of it
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05/02/13 07:12 PM
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Sounds about right, autoxcuda.
I wonder if there are some other ways to save money. For example, the entire car may not have to come apart. Perhaps the undercarriage could receive undercoating. I am done showing the car, and spend a lot more time driving it. I want it to look as good as it does now, but a painted underside is not practical.
Just a thought.
*1969 383 4sp. Super Bee
*1966 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT
*1965 Porsche 356C
*2004 VW Passat Wagon
*2004 Mini Cooper S
*1967 Jaguar E-Type FHC
A mall cop is in our midst.
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Re: Talk me out of it
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05/02/13 07:30 PM
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Sounds about right, autoxcuda.
I wonder if there are some other ways to save money. For example, the entire car may not have to come apart. Perhaps the undercarriage could receive undercoating. I am done showing the car, and spend a lot more time driving it. I want it to look as good as it does now, but a painted underside is not practical.
Just a thought.
I was not even figuring the painted undercarriage. That will be big bux.
You can probably keep the vinyl top and dash in there. Maybe keep the interior with carefull masking (labor intensive and high quality labor). But some spot will be missed.
But K-member w/motor and suspension will have to be dropped. Grill assy out, all trim that borders paint... on and on.
Even if you went undercoating, it's still takes labor to put it on.
Too me something like this takes experience, craftsmanship and judgement. I'd think about Rocket Restoration or a quality speciality Mopar shop in your region.
I wouldn't be surprise if it ended up costing you near half amount you could sell the car for.
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Re: Talk me out of it
[Re: autoxcuda]
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05/02/13 07:32 PM
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Rocket was the first name I thought of.
To be honest, I doubt I would do all this. The money spent changing the color could buy me another classic car. Or, we could put a bit more down on our second house.
My wife would agree with that second scenario.
*1969 383 4sp. Super Bee
*1966 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT
*1965 Porsche 356C
*2004 VW Passat Wagon
*2004 Mini Cooper S
*1967 Jaguar E-Type FHC
A mall cop is in our midst.
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Re: Talk me out of it
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05/02/13 08:07 PM
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I'm gonna try and talk you out of it. My friend has a 68 R/T in the gold your talking, with a black top and black interior. Its looks nice but it looks very boring. It looks too "grandmaish" Stay with your 999 color because in my personal opinion it looks great. I wouldn't change a single thing (unless its a automatic).
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Re: Talk me out of it
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05/02/13 08:26 PM
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I'm gonna try and talk you out of it. My friend has a 68 R/T in the gold your talking, with a black top and black interior. Its looks nice but it looks very boring. It looks too "grandmaish" Stay with your 999 color because in my personal opinion it looks great. I wouldn't change a single thing (unless its a automatic).
I agree,....while I don't normally like the Hi-Impact colors on Mopars of 69 and down vintage, unless it's a full custom, but not in "stockish" trim,....BUT I have to say the Orange works nicely with the stipe/trim/interior combo on this Bee,...I wouldn't change it, unless it was to paint it Black,...GrandMa Gold will just take away the visual impact the car currently has...seriously
Mike
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Re: Talk me out of it
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05/02/13 08:32 PM
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Gold and black is pretty boring, but gold and white is pretty striking. The car is a factory n96 4 speed car.
*1969 383 4sp. Super Bee
*1966 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT
*1965 Porsche 356C
*2004 VW Passat Wagon
*2004 Mini Cooper S
*1967 Jaguar E-Type FHC
A mall cop is in our midst.
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Re: Talk me out of it
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05/02/13 08:46 PM
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Gold and black is pretty boring, but gold and white is pretty striking. The car is a factory n96 4 speed car.
I'd actually would like to talk you into repainting it, but you'd have to agree to TRIPLE BLACK, then you'd be... BADD BEE instead of New Bee 
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And drive it 
. Your car is sweet the way it is 
