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"blue printed crate engine" Is this the name of the company?? I tried to google but couldn't find. I'd like to know so I can avoid them!!

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I purchase this an engine from blue printed crate engine last year and ran into a problem with it.

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"blue printed crate engine" Is this the name of the company?? I tried to google but couldn't find. I'd like to know so I can avoid them!!

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FIRST these people say it is a cold-start issue and NOW it is a detonation prob? On a 2nd ring ...with no cyl wall probs? ... fiddlesticks.

I would not trust anything these guys say. LOOK at what these guys claim on their site ....

"""""Today the company he founded has produced over 200,000 factory replacement engines for cars and light trucks."""""

An average of 10,000 engines a year .... that is almost 30 engines a day -EVERY SINGLE DAY for 20 years... from a small shop ... !!

Yeah right.

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I agree 440 Guy!
Is that 7 days a week? or 5 days a week?
Big shop or small, I don't see it. 200,000???
They say 30 months or 50,000 miles.
Unless they can show 100% it was the customer's
fault, they should stand behind it, or not offer
a warrenty on their motors.

Looks like one to stay away from. Did they
offer to cover 1/2 the cost?

One cylinder? Second ring? Sounds fishy!!!!

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FIRST these people say it is a cold-start issue and NOW it is a detonation prob? On a 2nd ring ...with no cyl wall probs? ... fiddlesticks.

I would not trust anything these guys say. LOOK at what these guys claim on their site ....

"""""Today the company he founded has produced over 200,000 factory replacement engines for cars and light trucks."""""

An average of 10,000 engines a year .... that is almost 30 engines a day -EVERY SINGLE DAY for 20 years... from a small shop ... !!

Yeah right.

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I agree 440 Guy!
Is that 7 days a week? or 5 days a week?
Big shop or small, I don't see it. 200,000???
They say 30 months or 50,000 miles.
Unless they can show 100% it was the customer's
fault, they should stand behind it, or not offer
a warrenty on their motors.

Looks like one to stay away from. Did they
offer to cover 1/2 the cost?

One cylinder? Second ring? Sounds fishy!!!!

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Were you running any nitrous on it?

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I hope you dont mind Challenger... but I just went to there web site and sent them a email telling them I heard they are not standing by there work regarding a broken ring and that I myself will not ever be doing bisiness with them.
( I did not mention anything about this site)
Sorry but I couldnt help it!

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DOn't mind at all

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Detonation can do some bad stuff over time. But if it was only detonating critically on one hole (using the evidence of pressure readings from others as an indicator), it would still be assembly/machining issue. All holes would have the issue if it were a bolt on/fuel/tuning issue. I dont think anyone would stand behind it after 7K miles. I know I wouldnt. Help fix it and make it right, sure. Eat the entire job? No. Because it's already proved that my job was done right and maybe one of the parts I chose failed. There is something to be said for parts choices, and in that area, I've never liked Blueprint. Bu tthe cheapness factor always wins that debate.

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I would agree with you but they claim 30 month warratny and 20k milage warranty. This was the biggest reason i went with them over a local machine shop.

If i caused the problem i won't expect them to eat it or for it to be covered.

Problem is they started with it was a cold start problem "cause by the cold weather you guys get up there in New York"

That was the first guy i talked mind you he would be the one to fix and reassembled.

Then the manager in charge of sales tells me it is a detonnation problem.

Then he goes into i supplied the bolt ons and they could not say if the fuel pump / carb and timing was correct.

If they started out with i caused the detonation problem in the first place i wouldn't of have questions there actions but the manager went on about how it could been caused by other things and kept back stepping on what he said the cause of the ring failure was.

And my favorite thing was on the broken rings weere in spec and installe correctly.

HOw can you tell that when they were broken i asked.

His replay o i mean that they were the right ring for that piston.

Just too many things don't add up.

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Detonation can do some bad stuff over time. But if it was only detonating critically on one hole (using the evidence of pressure readings from others as an indicator), it would still be assembly/machining issue. All holes would have the issue if it were a bolt on/fuel/tuning issue. I dont think anyone would stand behind it after 7K miles. I know I wouldnt. Help fix it and make it right, sure. Eat the entire job? No. Because it's already proved that my job was done right and maybe one of the parts I chose failed. There is something to be said for parts choices, and in that area, I've never liked Blueprint. Bu tthe cheapness factor always wins that debate.

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I would agree with you but they claim 30 month warratny and 20k milage warranty. This was the biggest reason i went with them over a local machine shop.

If i caused the problem i won't expect them to eat it or for it to be covered.

Problem is they started with it was a cold start problem "cause by the cold weather you guys get up there in New York"

That was the first guy i talked mind you he would be the one to fix and reassembled.

Then the manager in charge of sales tells me it is a detonnation problem.

Then he goes into i supplied the bolt ons and they could not say if the fuel pump / carb and timing was correct.

If they started out with i caused the detonation problem in the first place i wouldn't of have questions there actions but the manager went on about how it could been caused by other things and kept back stepping on what he said the cause of the ring failure was.

And my favorite thing was on the broken rings weere in spec and installe correctly.

HOw can you tell that when they were broken i asked.

His replay o i mean that they were the right ring for that piston.

Just too many things don't add up.

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I would just get it back the way it is and find someone REPUTABLE to put it back together .

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where did you get it from? who built it?

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http://www.blueprintengines.com/
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I went to their website and found this.
http://www.blueprintengines.com/popular_configurations/index.html?topic=specs&pc_id=87

Never seen one of these before. If I bought one my wife would probably hook it up to our gas grill.

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I would just get it back the way it is and find someone REPUTABLE to put it back together.

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I would retrieve it & hand it over to someone else you are comfortable with & have them finish it. Ask them(the 1st bunch) if they will make it right(refund your $$$)(for their mistake) & if their final ans is no then file a complaint with the BBB to help the next guy who comes along & finally decide if you want to take some(legal) action to recover your losses & if so take pics & document everything they say & the dates ect. good Luck with this.

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Hey 540, probably hard to force these guys legally/administratively (credit card company, BBB, atty. general, etc.) to do anything unless you take 'em to court and win.

You might be able to shame 'em into fixing it... but I doubt it. I mean, they have so little pride in their work that they load the cooling system w/ Bars leak

(look here), then they probably can't be shamed into anything.

If this were my situation, I'd go looking for another shop, or have it sent home and tear it down myself. Better to check the whole thing over; probably nothing else wrong, but worth a gasket set to see.

And if anyone else decides to go to these guys... also get that pre-luber thing . You might find it come in handy in more ways than one!

-bill

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i almost forgot about the prelube take it was a nice piece almost. Al it is a little take take you used compressed air to push the oil thur the motor to prime it work great but......

When i got mine for some reason i decided to look in the thing.

Much to my surpised there was a tone of metal fillings inside it

I guess that should have been a hint of things to come.

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look at what they say about vacuum advance...

http://www.blueprintengines.com/tech_tips/index.html?topic=details&tech_id=22

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Ya they tried to get me on that one.

After they told me what was wroung with it then came the questions.

Was your vac. adavnced hook up what was your timing set to.

My replay no vac. advance and i set the timing up acording to you specs in your book.