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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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10/29/08 12:20 AM
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Ya, I have the same engine... I was wondering how good there "warranty" is... now I know... So in short they will not cover it because you might have started it in the "winter" with the choke on.... WHAT???? I have been very unhappy with mine and this is just one more reason to not recommend them to people... Here is my story: https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...&PHPSESSID=I have much more to report, but I have not kept up with the thread... The lack of ANY support and inconsistent answers about the balance should have keyed me off from the get go, but.... lesson learned The MP 360 crate engines are much better (I have one as well) but the are not avail any more from what I understand...
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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10/29/08 07:33 AM
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When i ask why it wasn't covered they replayed that it might have been caused by cold starts in the winter from the when the choke was closed.
what a load of hogwash. I started my 416 (my build) last night when it was in the low 40's. No broken rings.
maybe I should tear it down and check them??? 
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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10/29/08 07:44 AM
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When i ask why it wasn't covered they replayed that it might have been caused by cold starts in the winter from the when the choke was closed.
what a load of hogwash. I started my 416 (my build) last night when it was in the low 40's. No broken rings.
maybe I should tear it down and check them???
My guess the only ring not seated or broken is number 8 whcih was low on the compression test and the whole story of all the 2nd ring broken is just talked to try to cover it up.
when the ring went i was driving and got gas and saw smoke from under the hood and it was oil pourign out on he breathes i drove it home and there was no sign of power loss all 8 rings broken i think it would run like a terd i am going to call today and speak to someone higher in managment i will keep you guys informed.
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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10/29/08 08:35 AM
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What size is the motor and where did you purchase it from?
I start my 540 CU Indy Hemi all the time when its cold.. maybe I shouldn't start it anymore?
It is a 408 small block from blue prined engines the whole cold start things is them just them trying to cover up there mistake.
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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10/29/08 09:29 AM
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You are in a difficult place. You cannot call them morons because they have your engine, yet you know this fact to be true and the truth is always good...... hehehe
Good luck.
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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10/29/08 09:40 AM
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Cold weather starts did it ? What about the millions of cars in the top half of the country. OH, I guess you need to move to a warmer climate  They must of forgot to tell you you would need to move to a warmer climate....
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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10/29/08 09:43 AM
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You are in a difficult place. You cannot call them morons because they have your engine, yet you know this fact to be true and the truth is always good...... hehehe
Good luck.
LOL True i am going to have to very nicly call them stupid and explain why.
Can you guys tell me what would cause only the 2nd ring to break in any motor.
i got to one mentioned already when installed there broke them.
Too tight of a ring gap.
Anything else just somethings i have to fire at them.
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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10/29/08 11:47 AM
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KBs need the top ring larger because of the alloy and design. Not all hypers do, but KB hypers do. The second ring is not designed to be a compression ring, it's an oil scraper. So I'd have to say as BG racing said, it butted or was loose in the lands. I've broken them for both those reasons, but the bore will show sings, and that hole should need to be hit with a hone or brush. It's kinda cheap IMO to run std replacement 2nd rings as opposed to a full file-to-fit set. But this shouldnt be a problem mechanically, just cheap. Choke runs it rich. It might make it harder for the rings to seat initially if it was over rich, but you would see questionable readings on all the holes, not one.
Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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10/29/08 12:31 PM
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i have to agree with the others.
is that one of those companies that sells really cheap rebuilt engines?
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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10/29/08 05:14 PM
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I know you may be out some money.. But if that is there attitude and there poor workmanship I would just demand the motor back and have it properly done.
No way would I pay them a second time unless you are sure it may have been a error at your end, which it sounds like it isn't.
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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heck no, i wouldnt either.
If they arent replacing any parts, I'd get the engine back and fix it myself. if they are, I have them send thos back with it.
are the cylinders damaged?
who built it?
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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10/29/08 10:13 PM
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Forget about any pictures or reports that they would send you. They could easily make that stuff up, and at this point, I would not expect less from them.
Ask to have the engine returned to you, pay the shipping expense, and find a good machine shop in your area. There are plenty of Moparites living in NY on this site, who can recommend a good machine shop that stands behind their work, and will ensure that your engine performs properly.
Sorry to hear about this dilemna, but you served everyone on this site by letting us know what this vendor is all about.
Like the women I have dated --- Always looking for a better deal ....
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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10/29/08 11:07 PM
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Well i this point i just want to get my motor back and away from them. Being that they have it and the fact that i can't go there in person makes me what to be rather carefull at this point. They have are ready refused to stand by there work along with misleading and trying to take advantage. Thanks again guys fall all the support and advise.  Well i let you guys know the final outcome when i get this back.
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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10/30/08 07:07 AM
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where did you get it from? who built it?
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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11/01/08 12:51 AM
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You are correct. The BBB only requests that the complaint be reviewed by the other party. If the party comes back and concludes they have done a thorough and timely review, the BBB really cannot do anything. The first party has the right to rebuttal, but again, that may go nowhere too. The BBB only wants to insure the complaint was timely reviewed. It has not way to force and outcome on either side.
Playing devil's advocate, I really would give the engine company the benefit of the doubt before blasting them on the board. Again, if you are not and expert in this area or do not have the results back or your own independent results it is really a matter of your word vs their's. Most companies are probably not out to get you and it is highly possible that when calling their cust service person, they were not a true expert either, did not understand what exactly the issue was, or you could have misunderstood as well. My point is this, keep your head up. Be patient for the results. We all know or have experienced crazy mechanical issues before in our lives and this could just be one of those cases. I think it is wierd that it ran fine for 7000 miles before this issue popped up. Best of luck to you.
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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11/01/08 03:42 AM
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I really would give the engine company the benefit of the doubt before blasting them on the board.
FIRST these people say it is a cold-start issue and NOW it is a detonation prob? On a 2nd ring ...with no cyl wall probs? ... fiddlesticks.
I would not trust anything these guys say. LOOK at what these guys claim on their site ....
"""""Today the company he founded has produced over 200,000 factory replacement engines for cars and light trucks."""""
An average of 10,000 engines a year .... that is almost 30 engines a day -EVERY SINGLE DAY for 20 years... from a small shop ... !!
Yeah right.
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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11/01/08 08:44 AM
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I wonder if somebody on the board close to there could go pick it up and ship it to you? Whatever it costs you is cheap compared to paying them to re-do it and then having to go through it again when you get it back.
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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A "big" engine rebuilding company like that should warranty that motor. They have the funds to keep a good reputation and back up there work!
I also like what they put in their "warranty" of the engine. Warranty void if "detonation, misuse, no lube" yada, yada, yada, something to that affect. They are saying it is a detonation problem now? Seems like they're trying to get out of fixing their mishap.
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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11/01/08 04:34 PM
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I purchase this an engine from blue printed crate engine last year and ran into a problem with it.
"blue printed crate engine" Is this the name of the company?? I tried to google but couldn't find. I'd like to know so I can avoid them!!
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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Detonation can do some bad stuff over time. But if it was only detonating critically on one hole (using the evidence of pressure readings from others as an indicator), it would still be assembly/machining issue. All holes would have the issue if it were a bolt on/fuel/tuning issue. I dont think anyone would stand behind it after 7K miles. I know I wouldnt. Help fix it and make it right, sure. Eat the entire job? No. Because it's already proved that my job was done right and maybe one of the parts I chose failed. There is something to be said for parts choices, and in that area, I've never liked Blueprint. Bu tthe cheapness factor always wins that debate.
Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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FIRST these people say it is a cold-start issue and NOW it is a detonation prob? On a 2nd ring ...with no cyl wall probs? ... fiddlesticks.
I would not trust anything these guys say. LOOK at what these guys claim on their site ....
"""""Today the company he founded has produced over 200,000 factory replacement engines for cars and light trucks."""""
An average of 10,000 engines a year .... that is almost 30 engines a day -EVERY SINGLE DAY for 20 years... from a small shop ... !!
Yeah right.
I agree 440 Guy!
Is that 7 days a week? or 5 days a week?
Big shop or small, I don't see it. 200,000???
They say 30 months or 50,000 miles.
Unless they can show 100% it was the customer's
fault, they should stand behind it, or not offer
a warrenty on their motors.
Looks like one to stay away from. Did they
offer to cover 1/2 the cost?
One cylinder? Second ring? Sounds fishy!!!! 
Snap your neck, mega G-force launch, is all I want!
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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11/02/08 01:30 PM
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I would spend $25 & talk to a lawyer who specializes in this kind of litigation for a 30 minute initial consultation
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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FIRST these people say it is a cold-start issue and NOW it is a detonation prob? On a 2nd ring ...with no cyl wall probs? ... fiddlesticks.
I would not trust anything these guys say. LOOK at what these guys claim on their site ....
"""""Today the company he founded has produced over 200,000 factory replacement engines for cars and light trucks."""""
An average of 10,000 engines a year .... that is almost 30 engines a day -EVERY SINGLE DAY for 20 years... from a small shop ... !!
Yeah right.
I agree 440 Guy!
Is that 7 days a week? or 5 days a week?
Big shop or small, I don't see it. 200,000???
They say 30 months or 50,000 miles.
Unless they can show 100% it was the customer's
fault, they should stand behind it, or not offer
a warrenty on their motors.
Looks like one to stay away from. Did they
offer to cover 1/2 the cost?
One cylinder? Second ring? Sounds fishy!!!!
Hey BD ... it sounds more than just FISHY !
I gave these guys the benefit of the doubt ..... I was figuring SEVEN days a week ... but 5 days would be more real-world -- and that would be almost FORTY engines per day !!
I have done FEWER engines than that IN MY LIFE ... but what info they post on their site - it is hard to believe that they have built even ONE !!
READ what they say ....... UNreal.
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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Were you running any nitrous on it?
No nitrous.
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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I hope you dont mind Challenger... but I just went to there web site and sent them a email telling them I heard they are not standing by there work regarding a broken ring and that I myself will not ever be doing bisiness with them.
( I did not mention anything about this site)
Sorry but I couldnt help it!
DOn't mind at all
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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Detonation can do some bad stuff over time. But if it was only detonating critically on one hole (using the evidence of pressure readings from others as an indicator), it would still be assembly/machining issue. All holes would have the issue if it were a bolt on/fuel/tuning issue. I dont think anyone would stand behind it after 7K miles. I know I wouldnt. Help fix it and make it right, sure. Eat the entire job? No. Because it's already proved that my job was done right and maybe one of the parts I chose failed. There is something to be said for parts choices, and in that area, I've never liked Blueprint. Bu tthe cheapness factor always wins that debate.
I would agree with you but they claim 30 month warratny and 20k milage warranty. This was the biggest reason i went with them over a local machine shop.
If i caused the problem i won't expect them to eat it or for it to be covered.
Problem is they started with it was a cold start problem "cause by the cold weather you guys get up there in New York"
That was the first guy i talked mind you he would be the one to fix and reassembled. 
Then the manager in charge of sales tells me it is a detonnation problem.
Then he goes into i supplied the bolt ons and they could not say if the fuel pump / carb and timing was correct.
If they started out with i caused the detonation problem in the first place i wouldn't of have questions there actions but the manager went on about how it could been caused by other things and kept back stepping on what he said the cause of the ring failure was.
And my favorite thing was on the broken rings weere in spec and installe correctly.
HOw can you tell that when they were broken i asked.
His replay o i mean that they were the right ring for that piston.
Just too many things don't add up.
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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Detonation can do some bad stuff over time. But if it was only detonating critically on one hole (using the evidence of pressure readings from others as an indicator), it would still be assembly/machining issue. All holes would have the issue if it were a bolt on/fuel/tuning issue. I dont think anyone would stand behind it after 7K miles. I know I wouldnt. Help fix it and make it right, sure. Eat the entire job? No. Because it's already proved that my job was done right and maybe one of the parts I chose failed. There is something to be said for parts choices, and in that area, I've never liked Blueprint. Bu tthe cheapness factor always wins that debate.
I would agree with you but they claim 30 month warratny and 20k milage warranty. This was the biggest reason i went with them over a local machine shop.
If i caused the problem i won't expect them to eat it or for it to be covered.
Problem is they started with it was a cold start problem "cause by the cold weather you guys get up there in New York"
That was the first guy i talked mind you he would be the one to fix and reassembled.
Then the manager in charge of sales tells me it is a detonnation problem.
Then he goes into i supplied the bolt ons and they could not say if the fuel pump / carb and timing was correct.
If they started out with i caused the detonation problem in the first place i wouldn't of have questions there actions but the manager went on about how it could been caused by other things and kept back stepping on what he said the cause of the ring failure was.
And my favorite thing was on the broken rings weere in spec and installe correctly.
HOw can you tell that when they were broken i asked.
His replay o i mean that they were the right ring for that piston.
Just too many things don't add up.
I would just get it back the way it is and find someone REPUTABLE to put it back together .
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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Is it too late to dispute the charges on your CC? I'd do a charge back on those guys and see what happens (and let them keep the dam motor!!)
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Hey 540, probably hard to force these guys legally/administratively (credit card company, BBB, atty. general, etc.) to do anything unless you take 'em to court and win. You might be able to shame 'em into fixing it... but I doubt it. I mean, they have so little pride in their work that they load the cooling system w/ Bars leak (look here), then they probably can't be shamed into anything. If this were my situation, I'd go looking for another shop, or have it sent home and tear it down myself. Better to check the whole thing over; probably nothing else wrong, but worth a gasket set to see. And if anyone else decides to go to these guys... also get that pre-luber thing. You might find it come in handy in more ways than one! -bill
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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Hey 540, probably hard to force these guys legally/administratively (credit card company, BBB, atty. general, etc.) to do anything unless you take 'em to court and win.
You might be able to shame 'em into fixing it... but I doubt it. I mean, they have so little pride in their work that they load the cooling system w/ Bars leak
(look here), then they probably can't be shamed into anything.
If this were my situation, I'd go looking for another shop, or have it sent home and tear it down myself. Better to check the whole thing over; probably nothing else wrong, but worth a gasket set to see.
And if anyone else decides to go to these guys... also get that pre-luber thing . You might find it come in handy in more ways than one!
-bill
i almost forgot about the prelube take it was a nice piece almost. Al it is a little take take you used compressed air to push the oil thur the motor to prime it work great but......
When i got mine for some reason i decided to look in the thing.
Much to my surpised there was a tone of metal fillings inside it 
I guess that should have been a hint of things to come.
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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look at what they say about vacuum advance...
http://www.blueprintengines.com/tech_tips/index.html?topic=details&tech_id=22
Ya they tried to get me on that one. 
After they told me what was wroung with it then came the questions.
Was your vac. adavnced hook up what was your timing set to.
My replay no vac. advance and i set the timing up acording to you specs in your book. 
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
[Re: 540challenger]
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11/08/08 11:39 AM
11/08/08 11:39 AM
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This may be a little off topic,
but,
I read their 30 mth/20,000 mile "Warranty", and it says something specifically in it, about NOT WARRANTEE'ing,
"broken rings" of any kind ?
Am I reading their warranty right ?
Better to be a "has been" than a "never was".
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
[Re: MoparforLife]
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11/08/08 03:37 PM
11/08/08 03:37 PM
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Blair County,PA
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Another thing to remember (unless printed differently with the engine). Performance parts usually carry NO warranty. You buy it is yours.
Then they need to change their warranty wording:
A Ton Of Extras:
EDELBROCK RPM Air-Gap Intake
Mopar Performance black satin aluminum valve covers
Brass freeze plugs
Dyno tested – and shipped with results
Comes with 30 month / 50,000 mile warranty
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
[Re: 62maxwgn]
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11/12/08 09:11 AM
11/12/08 09:11 AM
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Cold starts with the choke closed, NO WAY! I started my 440 last winter at points where it was so cold the battery couldnt really crank the engine over after sitting for 2 days (she always too a few cranks to fire). Never had broken rings. Sounds stupid to me, they probably figured this guy doesnt know much we will make up some bs and make 700 dollars. I'd bet you just had one bad ring on the cylinder that was down on compression, probably due to their faulty "blueprint" job. I dont think anyone knows what blueprint means anymore anyway, look for cars for sale on ebay and every last one of them has a "blueprinted" engine. Its trendy like "numbers matching." And dont use the vacuum advance?  They must have done something that cant hold up there. So you cant use the choke or the vacuum advance? What do they want this thing to be completely unfriendly to street use, easy starting, and good gas mileage? Why dont they tell you that you can't run mufflers either? That probably creates too much back pressure for it.
Last edited by GTX MATT; 11/12/08 09:15 AM.
Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat
Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
[Re: GTX MATT]
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11/12/08 01:26 PM
11/12/08 01:26 PM
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They are concerned about detonation and newbies screwing things up. a VERY valid reality. Honestly, after reading that, I wouldnt buy one anyway. You have to pay a pre-approved licensed repair facility to install it or they can void the warranty. Putting it in yourself could void the warranty. They decide what damage was caused by. Ring issues can be caused by a bunch of things, of which detonation/pre-ignition are two. It adds to my reasons not to ever use them.
Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
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