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Can anyone help me decode this block stamping 318 #1423282
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I'm trying to figure out what engine I have here, it's a 318 for sure, block STAMPING on the drivers side below the head is: 021404596M318. It's in a 1985 D-150 now, but I don't think it's the original engine, trying to find out if it's a 1985 or later block set up for a roller cam or not. Thanks!!!!!

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look on the pass side of engine block date/yr is cast into the block

driver side will have the cubic inch cast into the block

looking at the front of engine on driver side just below the head gasket is # stamped into the block and will have cubic inch there also.

IIRC, 3-318 is a truck engine

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The numbers I posted were the numbers on the block below the cylinder head. Too many things in the way and too much grease for me to read the casting date on the side of the block without getting the truck u in the air, I know the older blocks, the numbers are easy to decode, there are about 50 sites on the web to help you with that, and I have the "white books" as well, but I can't seem to find anyting past about 1978 or so...........

Re: Can anyone help me decode this block stamping 318 [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1423285
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The casting date tells when the block was cast not when it was actually assembled . But if it's not an 84 or 85 casting it is most likely not an 85 model year engine. Not that a block could have been set aside for what ever reason and built later.

That said if the 4596 is the assembly date that is Feb 26 1974 ?????

Do these era engine have the Vin pad on the oil pan rail ?

It is a 318 assembled an Mound Rd.

If

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I'm going to go out and see if I can possibly get to the casting date, never thought of the VIN stamped on the rail, that just has the last numbers of the vin though right? No way to tell year from that or am I mistaken, thanks for your help, I'm going to go out and see if I can get at anything else to help me decode this. Just trying to figure out if it's a roller cam block or not........ 727 is number PK4058332, which I gather is a 1979 truck non lock up, which is odd, cause it sure feels like a lock up trans when I drive it, but the numbers don't lie.. So anyway, I know for sure that the transmission has been swapped at some point. The truck is coded for a 318 2bbl, but now has a 318 with 360 heads, factory spread bore intake, etc. I was just hoping that someone swapped the top end and I still have the roller cam block as I wanted to put a reground early 90's roller cam in it to eliminate the problems with flat tappet failure with todays crappy oils. Don't want to have to put a bottle of zinc in with every oil change if I don't have to. Maybe I'll just look into using a diesel oil that has a good additive package if I can find one that's not $5 a quart!!!!

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I'm going to go out and see if I can possibly get to the casting date, never thought of the VIN stamped on the rail, that just has the last numbers of the vin though right? No way to tell year from that or am I mistaken, thanks for your help, I'm going to go out and see if I can get at anything else to help me decode this. Just trying to figure out if it's a roller cam block or not........ 727 is number PK4058332, which I gather is a 1979 truck non lock up, which is odd, cause it sure feels like a lock up trans when I drive it, but the numbers don't lie.. So anyway, I know for sure that the transmission has been swapped at some point. The truck is coded for a 318 2bbl, but now has a 318 with 360 heads, factory spread bore intake, etc. I was just hoping that someone swapped the top end and I still have the roller cam block as I wanted to put a reground early 90's roller cam in it to eliminate the problems with flat tappet failure with todays crappy oils. Don't want to have to put a bottle of zinc in with every oil change if I don't have to. Maybe I'll just look into using a diesel oil that has a good additive package if I can find one that's not $5 a quart!!!!




The number on the pan rail will be the MODEL YEAR , plant the vehicle was assembled at and the last 6 of the vin.

Oil isn't cheap anymore no matter what you use , not all diesel oils have hi zinc levels , thank the EPA . Use Valvoline VR-1 10 -30 , you can get it at NAPA.

Since many things have been changed if it feels like lockup it could be , the trans case is the same , the front half of the lockup trans could have been swapped in.

I don't know if a 79 lockup 727 is electric control or HYD. like the same vintage 904 ?

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No way on God's green earth can I read the casting date, it's buried behind an exhaust pipe, BUT, I did get the casting# 4323330, I think that's a roller cam block, but can't verify 100%, with my stamping numbers listed above and that block casting # can anyone tell me if this is a roller cam block?

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trans could have had the case replaced in a rebuild of the 85 LU trans.

you can pull the dist and use a mirror/light to look at the lifter boss are on the rear pass side to see if they are tall/machined for dogbones. or down the middle of the vall loking for the 3 spide bolt bosses.

you might get luck with R&R the VC and rocker shafts looking down the openings inbetween the ports/PR holes.

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021404596M318

That number is out of the usual sequence; the 6M318 is usually at the front of the number sequence and would be a '76 or '86 or '96 318 built at the Mound Road plant.

The assembly date is in the other numbers but what sequence? The casting date on the side of the block will determine which "6" it is.


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Re: Can anyone help me decode this block stamping 318 [Re: John_Kunkel] #1423291
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Just pulled a valve cover, head casting# 4323345, looking down into the valley I can't see far enough to see if it has the bosses for the spiders or not, but the lifter bores look pretty tall to me.

Scratchin, any word on the shipping for that roller cam?

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4323345 is a '85-'89 flat tappet head so the 6M318 engine number is an '86.


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