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Did I ruin this block? #1407582
03/24/13 01:06 PM
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When pounding out a slightly seized piston I slipped with the hammer and hit the #5 main saddle. I should have put the cap back on before doing it but in a moment of stupidity I forgot to. Did I render this block useless or will it be ok with a line bore/hone? Sorry for the poor pics, it's hard to get a good shot.

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Re: Did I ruin this block? [Re: gregsrt] #1407583
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Cap off

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Re: Did I ruin this block? [Re: gregsrt] #1407584
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Re: Did I ruin this block? [Re: gregsrt] #1407585
03/24/13 01:15 PM
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what that little chip? I'd think if you smoothed it out you'd be fine.


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Re: Did I ruin this block? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1407586
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well it's more of a dent than a chip. I'm thinking if I used a stroker crank with 440 mains that would machine out....btw its a 400 block.


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Re: Did I ruin this block? [Re: gregsrt] #1407587
03/24/13 01:28 PM
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I think you'll be ok, it's going to get machined anyway...

Re: Did I ruin this block? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1407588
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good stuff, thanks


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Re: Did I ruin this block? [Re: gregsrt] #1407589
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A file is your friend here.

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Re: Did I ruin this block? [Re: gregsrt] #1407590
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well it's more of a dent than a chip. I'm thinking if I used a stroker crank with 440 mains that would machine out....btw its a 400 block.


I would not enlarge the main bearing tunnel I have the mains turned down to on the RB cranks to 361-400 sizes Same thing on the rods, I either order the crank with BB Chevy rod sizes and B motor mains, I maybe going to smaller rod sizes in the future on offset grinding used cranks for more stroke In all seriuoness, don't make the main bearing bores larger,it weakens the main webbing Keep them stock and replace the stock cast iron caps, have the new caps fiited and align honed and use main studs

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Re: Did I ruin this block? [Re: gregsrt] #1407591
03/24/13 02:21 PM
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Take a stone to it and make sure there isnt any
high spot.. if there is stone or file it down and
your good to go

Re: Did I ruin this block? [Re: gregsrt] #1407592
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I would recommend that you use a file that is long enought to keep the file on the #4 saddle while filing the #5 saddle flat

Re: Did I ruin this block? [Re: BSB67] #1407593
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I would recommend that you use a file that is long enought to keep the file on the #4 saddle while filing the #5 saddle flat




X2
I would have the shop breath on the main line with the hone also.

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Re: Did I ruin this block? [Re: skrews] #1407594
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I would recommend that you use a file that is long enought to keep the file on the #4 saddle while filing the #5 saddle flat




X2
I would have the shop breath on the main line with the hone also.




I wouldnt waste my time... if he wasnt planning on honing
the mains ... just file it ... the cap surface I
would lay the file flat on the main to get it flat
(touch the high spot first till close) then in the
bearing surface touch the high spot till close then
lay the file on the whole bearing surface to make
sure its straight and flat... sure a machine shop
might say it should be line honed but thats what
they sell... I did this on one of my blocks and hit
it with a fine file... its still turning 8200 rpms
for the last 8 years... JMO

Re: Did I ruin this block? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1407595
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Thanks for the replies, now to get it sonic checked and decide on either a 4.15 or 4.25 stroke.


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Re: Did I ruin this block? [Re: gregsrt] #1407596
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No decision needed. The 4.25" stroke gets you more cubic inches.

R.

Re: Did I ruin this block? [Re: dogdays] #1407597
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No decision needed. The 4.25" stroke gets you more cubic inches.

R.


If you go with the 2.200 rod journal sizes it will run better, make more torque, less grinding on the block to clear the rods and it will spin the tires harder also


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Re: Did I ruin this block? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1407598
03/25/13 05:55 PM
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you guys are reading my mind.


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Re: Did I ruin this block? [Re: gregsrt] #1407599
03/25/13 06:13 PM
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you guys are reading my mind.




Plus the most common piston for a stroker low deck is 1.32 CH , there isn't a rod that works with that piston and a 4.150 stroke . 4.25 is the way to go and you get a 6.535 rod .

you want to be careful filing it , make sure you don't take any material off the #4 saddle.

It's probably a good thing you didn't have the cap on there you probably would have broken it. I don't like driving out stuck pistons , I threw out a 68 440HP block because my buddy punch a hole right thru the cylinder wall ...

Use a round stone to take the high spot off the bearing bore .

Good luck

Re: Did I ruin this block? [Re: '72CudaRacer] #1407600
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A file is your friend here.

Brian


i agree







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