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Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: Duner] #1400038
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Magazines.....

The number of people who have never been to the track to run or even spectate - but still believe they have a 9-second car just staggers the imagination and boggles the mind. They think that way because they read magazines and bench race with their buddies with ZERO basis for reality.




110%. I call them bar stool racers.


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Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: dizuster] #1400039
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I'm not trying to knock what you've done. I hope that doesn't come off that way. I'm just telling you that you should figure out what's wrong so you can get the most out of your combo.

If this one made 470hp to the tire, it probably makes 550~575 at the crank.

Just look at some other combo's. Here is a 340" with unported w9's that made 602hp on pump gas.

http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techarticles/engine/mopp_0310_340_engine_600_hp/viewall.html

There is no reason why your's shouldn't make more power then this. Even if this one has more compression, your heads are MUCH better then an unported w9.

Like I said... sorry if it came off like I was knocking you. I was just trying to help.




Here is the side to side comparison. You can see mine has TQ, theirs has RPM, two different motors. I had to hand jam it and convert it all, so might have some errors, but it makes sense. used 18% powertrain loss.


Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1400040
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By the way, thank-you for your service of serving our Country. Its because of guys like you that we can close our eyes at night and fall asleep.




Thanks Pitt, its a pleasure.

Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #1400041
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By the way, thank-you for your service of serving our Country. Its because of guys like you that we can close our eyes at night and fall asleep.




Thanks Pitt, its a pleasure.




i think you have a very neat truck,and its fast! and i also thank you for your service to our country! save up for a turbo,and blow everyones mind!

Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #1400042
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The flow sheet is there in the article, they only flow 280...

Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: dizuster] #1400043
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Ok... sorry... you guys got it all figured out. Us racer/engineer types that want to use experience and data must be wrong. If the keyboard experts of moparts want to make you feel better about spending $10k on a motor to run 11.20's, then who am I to tell you different.

Good luck...

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Ok... sorry... you guys got it all figured out. Us racer/engineer types that want to use experience and data must be wrong. If the keyboard experts of moparts want to make you feel better about spending $10k on a motor to run 11.20's, then who am I to tell you different.

Good luck...




So what do you think is the issue? Saying something is wrong does not help anyone. It has quality components. Optimum set up? No, but it is what it is right now. Only thing I could think of is the Intake. That is a straight out of the box 772 intake. What do those flow?

Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #1400045
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ADakotaRTguy: So you think a set up specifically to run a turbo will run like a bat out of hell without the turbo?

Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: TheOtherDodge] #1400046
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No, I was pretty happy with the times. I was not expecting that low a run with the potential to run faster when the shift light issue is worked out and I am able to adjust the suspension. I did no changes to the suspension at the track this time, simply worked the tune.

Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #1400047
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So what do you think is the issue? Saying something is wrong does not help anyone. It has quality components. Optimum set up? No, but it is what it is right now. Only thing I could think of is the Intake. That is a straight out of the box 772 intake. What do those flow?




You said it was lean... once you get that right it
will make more power.... get on that laptop and give
it some fuel.... if the injectors will support it

Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #1400048
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Everybody should go to this link and view the graphing HP calculator.

http://vexer.com/automotive-tools/1-4-mile-ET-HP-MPH-calculator

Put in the weight of the vehicle (4300#?) and move the HP slider until it makes the 118 mph. NOW - move the weight slider down to the weight that most people in race cars race with. (3000#?).... now look at the mph number.

Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1400049
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Fixed the issue with the lean spots at the track last time. That time was a run, but unsure of the shift points.

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Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #1400050
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How much does your truck weigh now?

Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: Duner] #1400051
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How much does your truck weigh now?




3898 with my 160 in it.

Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #1400052
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You build it and pay for it Duner, I will put it on, haha. I will even give you a set of W9 Dakota headers in return.




Come off your current headers and y into a single and bring it back up in the engine compartment, through on a flange, add a cheap ebay turbo (they sell cheapo 88's now) and your in business. I probably have less than $800 in my actual turbo setup, my biggest cost was fuel system and bits and pieces. It's very pretty but my cheap turbo has been through a good amount of abuse and still works great. I bet I ran it two weeks driving it every day with the drain 3/4 stopped up. It puked alot of oil out of the seals but recovered fine after I fixed the drain

Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #1400053
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anyone who says your dakota is not bad fast for what it is does not race.make no mistake that ting is fast for what you have in it.I am the frist to call bull $hit on someont when they start with 3900 lb race cars but I know what those dakotas weigh.440 small block+3900 lbs
running 11.20's = FAST




Julian, that is a nice truck. What is done to yours?




I was a 446 with b1 bs heads no port work to speak of a 600 lift flat tappet 10.5 to 1 comp two 750 eddys, hooker super comp headers 10 inch converter,456 gears, 14 32 tires power,windows,power stearing,cd,ac,all working lights e-brake.I weighed 3770 lbs with me in it but I had allot of it cut away,like alum fire wall,glass nose,no rear seat,race buckets,alum bed floor.but it had a eu 2000 generator in the bed to run the a/c and to charge the battery between rounds.It went 10.70's it dynoed 575 hp at Bob Kammers in dayton oh

Also people in the armed forces are first class all the way

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God made cold beer,good friends,hot ladies and race cars don't spit in his face by pi$$ing and moaning about how life sucks!!!
Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: julian2007] #1400054
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Very nice ride.

Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #1400055
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Get your tune correct, put on your turbo as planned, run some 9's and then ask "Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts?" again...

Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: TheOtherDodge] #1400056
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The tune is good, Chris from PIE was at the track doing the tuning. Just need to get the Nitrous bugs worked out and be able to shift at 7k vs the maybe 6600 to 6800 I was shifting at last weekend.

Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #1400057
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Next time you talk to Chris, tell him James from Houston said Hi. He is a good guy!

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