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Re: lock tight on connecting rod bolts [Re: JohnRR] #1389738
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Re: lock tight on connecting rod bolts [Re: Challenger 1] #1389739
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I use Acme Superglue...

Re: lock tight on connecting rod bolts [Re: WyleECoyote] #1389740
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Re: lock tight on connecting rod bolts [Re: pittsburghracer] #1389741
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Also, it's good practice to do some pre engine build stretching so when you are pulling on the torque wrench you don't pull a muscle.


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Re: lock tight on connecting rod bolts [Re: 68-scatpack-rt] #1389742
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Re: lock tight on connecting rod bolts [Re: pittsburghracer] #1389743
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All I wanted to know if it would be added insurance. I figured if you use oil to get the proper torque , lock tight (when wet) would act the same as oil

Re: lock tight on connecting rod bolts [Re: moparmikethree] #1389744
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NO lock tight. It isn't added insurance. It's totally not necessary.

Re: lock tight on connecting rod bolts [Re: pittsburghracer] #1389745
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These pretzels are making me thirsty.






No stretching huh?

Re: lock tight on connecting rod bolts [Re: moparmikethree] #1389746
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All I wanted to know if it would be added insurance. I figured if you use oil to get the proper torque , lock tight (when wet) would act the same as oil




Nice thought but just because it is a liquid does not mean it is viscious like oil ... or a moly lube ...


Re: lock tight on connecting rod bolts [Re: JohnRR] #1389747
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Quote:

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All I wanted to know if it would be added insurance. I figured if you use oil to get the proper torque , lock tight (when wet) would act the same as oil




Nice thought but just because it is a liquid does not mean it is viscious like oil ... or a moly lube ...






Loctite is a aerobic sp? it cures hard in the absence of air, so it's curing before you can get the hardware tight and will affect the torque. It's not a lube at all, none.

Re: lock tight on connecting rod bolts [Re: Challenger 1] #1389748
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WOW!, I guess I'm one of the few, I ALWAYS LOCTITE ROD BOLTS.


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Re: lock tight on connecting rod bolts [Re: moparmikethree] #1389749
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Just an FYI that might help you. My work sent me to a Loctite seminare. My general ideas about Loctite before this class was usually negative. But now I have a diffrent outlook on the product (when used properly). A couple tips to help you is everything must be clean! And make sure you are using the correct grade/strength. generally blue= normal grade, Red= high strength, green = high grade(bearing retainer). There are hundreads of grades inbetween, this is how I remember. Also, Loctite only bonds to metals that corrode. So Stainless, aluminum won't work. (They make special primers u can spray to work on these metals, but wont work without). As to your original question, it's not neccessary. You can use, I built a 318 with blue on the rod bolts just for the heck of it. And built another sb for a customer (from his request), but usually I use 30w oil. Hope this helps.


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Re: lock tight on connecting rod bolts [Re: R/T Lee] #1389750
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The nuts don't usaully loosen up if they are torqued to the right spec or stretch value,most rods still have tight nuts even when they exit through the block or oil pan

Re: lock tight on connecting rod bolts [Re: moparmikethree] #1389751
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Of it's everyone worse nightmare come true if a rod bolt/nut were to come loose or not get torque right or enough.

Why back when, when I built my first couple motors I remember laying in bed at night thinking to myself, did I torque all those nuts on the rods? Then I couldn't sleep. Then the next day I would check em again even though I had to pull the pan and none were ever loose.

Then I got into a routine and do it the same way every time and never stop or mess around when I'm doing the bottom end. I usually am by myself with no interruptions and can almost do it blind.

Especially when I was rebuilding brad hemis every week. I rebuilt them I swear 75 or more times and never ever started them at the shop. Always waited until we got the track to fire them and never ever had a bad engine, they always ran killer. I'm pretty proud of that fact.

But I remember when loctite hit the market it was never for critical fasteners like rod and main cap bolts/nuts that needed to stretch.

Re: lock tight on connecting rod bolts [Re: Challenger 1] #1389752
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I built the hemis during the day and my crew guys would put it in the car at night while I worked on work trucks.

Then they replaced the upper rod bearing every run at the track and the lower about ever 4-5 passes. They were in the bottom every run, so they were no strangers to the motor.
Torqued a bunch of fasteners in my time.

The head bolts will kick your butt, try doing that a couple times a day on 90 degree day.

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