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Saving sheet metal?
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02/11/13 03:55 PM
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When you go through the body on a car you are restoring and there are a couple holes, small holes, in spots, do you replace the panel or just patch the holes?
Is it better, in your opinion, to keep as much original sheet metal as possible?
Just curious. Both of my cars suffer from a couple small holes, and I'm talking floor pan holes that can be covered by a dime, in the drivers pans.
The GTS has a couple more holes for things like battery relocation, fuel cell, fuel pump(although those might be run through the vent hole locations) . The Bee has rust I'm the lower ribs of the trunk floor, but is by no means 'gone'.
1969 Dart GTS 340
1969 Super Bee X9 N-96
1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96
2015 Dodge Dart GT
2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn.
Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
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Re: Saving sheet metal?
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#1385606
02/11/13 04:07 PM
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I always try to save as much of the original metal as is feasable.
1959 Bugeye Sprite
1967 Charger Black L code
1967 Coronet R/T Convert Green 440 auto bought from original owner
1968 Charger R/T Bronze 440 4 spd console AM/FM
1969 Super Bee WM21H B5 A40 D21 N96
1969 Barracuda Formula S 340 Convert pilot car
1969 Hemi Road Runner RM23J D32 Omaha orange 4.10 Dana N96 N85
1970 Super Bee WM23N FE5 V1X 3.91 axle package, N96
1970 Road Runner RM21N B3 V1X D13
1971 MG Midget
1971 Road Runner RM23H GW3, A57
1972 Road Runner RM23P FY1, D21
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Re: Saving sheet metal?
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02/11/13 04:14 PM
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The plan should be to keep as much OE metal as possible in a true restoration. Sometimes, it isn't really feasible though. The rust in the trunk floor ribs is typical and once it is media blasted, there will be hundreds of little pinholes. Instead of replacing the full floor with China tin, try and just use the center section and butt weld it in, that way, the OE spot welds will still be retained.
I had given that some thought. Buying the full panel and just taking what I needed.
I'm in the same quandary over the right quarter. It has been repaired down low, the area ahead of the wheel looks fine. But up top where it folds into the trunk gutter there is rust through. Wonder if it would be better to patch it OE replace the whole thing. Pretty are it would be less expensive to repair what is there!
1969 Dart GTS 340
1969 Super Bee X9 N-96
1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96
2015 Dodge Dart GT
2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn.
Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
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Re: Saving sheet metal?
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02/11/13 04:28 PM
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Would like to hear what you decide. The body work is still a ways off. Just doing some early research.
1969 Dart GTS 340
1969 Super Bee X9 N-96
1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96
2015 Dodge Dart GT
2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn.
Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
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Re: Saving sheet metal?
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02/11/13 07:55 PM
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Another problem with fixing just the holes on say a quarter is, it could be thing in other areas and rust through after paint. My challenger had pinholes I could have filled, but replaced it instead because it's just an original triple green 318 car  For me it usually comes down to if its my car or someone elses. My own car, I'll patch and make flush fitting pieces that take more time, but cost me nothing. Since my time costs me nothing. For someone elses car I usually replace the panel or as much of the section that's rusty... since the time involved a lot of times costs more than a panel.
68 Road Runner, 69 Belvedere, 71 Challenger Vert
340 barracuda, 01 Ram CTD, 95 Ram, 04 Ram, 85 Daytona turbo Z
66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD. 07 Ram CTD, 07 Ram
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Re: Saving sheet metal?
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02/13/13 05:56 AM
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Good luck on your project! Have you posted it in the projects section?
1969 Dart GTS 340
1969 Super Bee X9 N-96
1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96
2015 Dodge Dart GT
2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn.
Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
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Re: Saving sheet metal?
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02/13/13 03:39 PM
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thanks!  yes its on the restoration forum, its 71challenger 440+6 shaker clone FAST/my HS grad present
71 challenger 440 sixpack shaker *CLONE* (71challenger 440+6 shaker clone FAST/my HS grad present)
03 mustang Mach 1 (daily driver)
11.35 @ 121.5 4 SPEED on F60-15s w/ 6/32 tread
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Re: Saving sheet metal?
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02/14/13 10:26 PM
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I would go with the full panel replacement to the seams, most of the time.
what kills me is all of the half azz trunk floor work i see out there!
alot of people take the short cut
and they will splice in a mess instead of growing a pair
and drilling out the rear panel
they will always say whats left in there is real solid so it
doesn't need to be replaced
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Re: Saving sheet metal?
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02/14/13 11:58 PM
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I would go with the full panel replacement to the seams, most of the time.
what kills me is all of the half azz trunk floor work i see out there!
alot of people take the short cut
and they will splice in a mess instead of growing a pair
and drilling out the rear panel
they will always say whats left in there is real solid so it
doesn't need to be replaced
But your post doesn't match your signature... 
Seriously, though. The right quarter has its issues. Down low, up high, and in the rear window area(don't think I mentioned that before). It may only make sense to replace that rather than patch in three different places. Most everything is pretty solid. I think the fenders are usable and I will probably hang a door on the drivers side.
Just getting some ideas.
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Re: Saving sheet metal?
[Re: OhioMopar]
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02/15/13 12:11 AM
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jersey shore
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I would go with the full panel replacement to the seams, most of the time.
what kills me is all of the half azz trunk floor work i see out there!
alot of people take the short cut
and they will splice in a mess instead of growing a pair
and drilling out the rear panel
they will always say whats left in there is real solid so it
doesn't need to be replaced
But your post doesn't match your signature...
it all depends on what amd part we are talking about!
there are a few amd parts i have had to frankenslice up to make work..
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