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Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp [Re: Sixpak] #1376998
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I agree with JohnRR...how much did you spend building that 900 hp small block?

and now you can't afford to put in even a $2,000 transmission? a TKO-600 would be better than a 23 spline in my mind, but even better than that would be a viper spec T56, as there are guys with Vipers that are into the 800 hp range and doing ok on the viper spec gear box.

but even they say once you put twin turbos on the viper and push it over 900 hp, that the T-56 is no good.


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Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp [Re: 70Cuda383] #1376999
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A 18 spline 833 would be marginal with a stroker if you did not have the blower on the street let alone a 23 spline. I used to break 23 splines with a 340 and dot drag tires. The only way that trans is going to live at all is if you never get on it. I would not waste my time breaking a good trans. Take your time, save some more money and do it right. Whats the use of building a 900 hp car if you can't get on it? I would break it the first day I was driving it.

Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp [Re: 70Cuda383] #1377000
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I have over $18,000 with the procharger kit and motor.

Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp [Re: 70Cuda383] #1377001
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Y'all are killing me! My 4sd muscle car dream is not looking to good.

Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp [Re: 1000+sbm] #1377002
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Y'all are killing me! My 4sd muscle car dream is not looking to good.




As long as you run some real greasy tires and never get it to hook you'll be fine.

HP and 4 speeds are fun plus you'll get a good workout pulling the trans to replace the clutch. How often? That depends on the right foot ...


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Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp [Re: 1000+sbm] #1377004
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Is that your lift ? If so it will come in handy changing scattered 833 and clutches ...


Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp [Re: JohnRR] #1377005
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the tranny might not hold, but that $950.00 1000hp twin dise clutch should.

Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp [Re: JohnRR] #1377006
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Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp [Re: 1000+sbm] #1377007
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tires


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Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp [Re: 1000+sbm] #1377008
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The newest T56 Magnum 6 speed is supposed to hold up to 900 horse. You can get one brand new for under 3 grand. It will take some fab work to install it.

Like Tom said, breaking driveline parts can be dangerous. Don't risk your car and your life and health on parts that are not up to the job. Make it as bullet-proof as possible.


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Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1377009
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Radials don't play nice with stick cars! Got to go Bias Ply.

Just to state the obvious,....Don't build a 18K power plant / $1K clutch infront of a $300 transmission.

You need way more trans. Sell the clutch (23 spline) and get the right setup to hold up to your power / chassis.

I've raced with 550 hp and 23 spline, but now I've gone up to 18 spline. If I had 600 hp or more, I'd be looking at the $2k to $4k transmissions out there.

Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp [Re: 1000+sbm] #1377010
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OK this not a race car, this is going to be my 4sd muscle car. But I will take it to track sometime. I have a 402ci with an F1 on it. I did Dyno the motor but that didn't go well. But at 5100rpm it did make 776fpt and 754hp running sickly. So once we get her rite 900hp should be no problem. So how do y'all feel about me running a 833 4SD?


Say goodby to it!


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Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp [Re: 1000+sbm] #1377012
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If you ask the question and several give their opinion, and they're good guys who know their stuff, why would you dispute the consensus answer? Wishful thinking?

We need Roseanne here to tell you, "Get Real!" It doesn't take a $18,000 engine that makes 900 hp to have a muscle car. Back in the day, people in my neck of the woods ruled the street with Swinger 4-speed 340s with 3.91s. That was when the "muscle cars" were new. A SS454 Chevelle or a Road Runner with a 440 swapped into it were kings of the street with their 350 flywheel horsepower. Now in other parts of the good-ol USA, street cars were getting into the 450 hp range, but that was about it, and those guys were more street racers than anything else.

I'm talking abot 1968 - 1974. '74 was about the end of the muscle car era.
In 1977, I could have bought a real Yenko Camaro for $2500. My friend bought a 1968 SS396 Nova 375 hp with close ratio 4-speed and 4.11s in the 12-bolt for a little under $1000 from a dealer who had stupidly taken it in trade. Gas was up to a buck a gallon and we all knew the world was going to pieces.
That's how it really was.

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Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp [Re: dogdays] #1377013
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900 horse with a stick and Cal-Tracs ought to be a fun ride.


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Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp [Re: slantzilla] #1377014
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parts i have bought, a new quick time scatter shield, new twin dise clutch, and just got my od and my reg 833 rebuilt. so i might be selling some sh*^. so i can get a better tranny.

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Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp [Re: 1000+sbm] #1377015
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These guys are right, with that much power your going to be finding every weak link in the car now. Especially if it gets any traction.

Re: can a 833 23 splin hold up to over 800fpt & 900hp [Re: 1000+sbm] #1377016
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http://monstermopar.com/forum/index.php?topic=2435.0

Several for sale on racing junk and class racer at any given time. New GForce and Jericos around 4 area new. Each manufacturer also often have trade ins/rebuilds. Doesn't hurt to call around.


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