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Here we go again ! #1373981 01/21/13 10:54 PM 01/21/13 10:54 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	So here I am year and haft later with crack cy wall again and wrist pin bushings push out of the rods ! Some of you might remember the wrist pin bushing from before. I blame it on junk metal use in the 440 source rods . I will take that back now. last time we put it back together we use new wrist pins and new eagle rods.It has push the bushings out of the rods again. and we put a new sleeve in it. last time it crack across the back side this time long ways to the outside .this is the second sleeve both crack. I think the block should of never been used. might of bored in to thew water jacket ? I don't know was not there...But this wrist pin deal burn my a$$.. all I can think is he got them to tight ??

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: VernMotor] #1373982 01/21/13 11:18 PM 01/21/13 11:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Did this happen on the Same cylinder/piston? I remember the last time you pushed a bushing out on a pin. I dont remember if it was just on one cylinder or not. I think youve ruled out a rod/pin problem, if so.

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: Sport440] #1373983 01/21/13 11:24 PM 01/21/13 11:24 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Push the bushing out on all of them. stuck to the wrist pins. last time was worse ..but it got ran longer. same cy on the sleeve.

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: VernMotor] #1373984 01/22/13 12:47 AM 01/22/13 12:47 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Thats strange that they are all pushing out. It would seem that they may be all on the tight side. But , I wouldnt figure that they would all want to push out. Are they pushing out all the Same direction?? as in All towards the back of the engine or the front. Or just all random directions both front and back?? If its direction one way , that may indicate that the crank is not parallel, perpendiculularly with the cylinders maybe. Just thinking out loud here, Last edited by Sport440; 01/22/13 12:50 AM.

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: Sport440] #1373985 01/22/13 08:51 AM 01/22/13 08:51 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,629 pa 572charger top fuel
572charger top fuel Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,629 pa	did u pin fit the rods ? all brand new rods need pin fitted to the piston pins u are useing , even my 1600..00 olivers needed done i put 9 tenths to a little over 1 thou depending on application ,no2 and blown/ turbo need more because they will gauld the pin to the bushing easy !! 606 hemi pump gas best 9.60 at 142mph on motor 05 hemi daytona 1500 go-mango 4wd quadcab 2007 hotrod mag pump gas drags runner up, roadkill nights dodge big tire winner 2018 2019 back to back

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: Sport440] #1373986 01/22/13 09:32 AM 01/22/13 09:32 AM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,443 Maryland D Dads426 pro stock
Dads426 pro stock D Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,443 Maryland	Quote: If its direction one way , that may indicate that the crank is not parallel, perpendiculularly with the cylinders maybe. Just thinking out loud here, The cylinders could have been bored crooked. Check to see if the deck is parallel to the crank and then the bores perpindicular to the deck. Also, on the 440 Source rods I had to have my machinist hone the small end to get the proper fit. 2012 422 Allstars NSS Champion 2013 422 Allstars NSS Champion 2014 422 Allstars NSS Champion

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: Dads426] #1373987 01/22/13 10:44 AM 01/22/13 10:44 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Well all of that was supost to been done ? block junk. going to start over with other machinist.

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: VernMotor] #1373988 01/22/13 11:29 AM 01/22/13 11:29 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Jamie these are full floater correct... where are the locks at... did they push out EDIT it can really be only 1 thing(my opinion) that the press fit of the bushing into the rod isnt tight enough and for some reason the pin to the bushing has more friction then the bushing to rod... the pin must have been too tight on the fit Last edited by MR_P_BODY; 01/22/13 11:37 AM.

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: VernMotor] #1373989 01/22/13 04:14 PM 01/22/13 04:14 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,274 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,274 Bend,OR USA	Quote: Well all of that was supost to been done ? block junk. going to start over with other machinist. To tight is not good on many things in a performance motor Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1373990 01/22/13 04:28 PM 01/22/13 04:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,762 Hot Rod Ridge FastmOp master
FastmOp master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,762 Hot Rod Ridge	Now you can't say a bad word about 440source ever again I'm betting the block was machined wrong but it is hard to say. Did the pins get oil on assembly?

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: VernMotor] #1373991 01/22/13 07:13 PM 01/22/13 07:13 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,091 Delray beach, Florida P Performance Only top fuel
Performance Only top fuel P Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,091 Delray beach, Florida	Could you post some good clear pictures of the front and back of the rod bearings as well as the big end bore (rod half, not cap half) of 2 or 3 connecting rods please. machine shop owner and engine builder

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: Performance Only] #1373992 01/22/13 07:30 PM 01/22/13 07:30 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing master
B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	The bushing need to be a interference fit to the rod either by heating and expanding the rod or freezing the bushing or both.Then fitting the bushing for the pin.To only press fit the bushing in the rod can cause the the bushing to come out. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: FastmOp] #1373993 01/22/13 08:07 PM 01/22/13 08:07 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Quote: Now you can't say a bad word about 440source ever again I'm betting the block was machined wrong but it is hard to say. Did the pins get oil on assembly? Yes I put the motor together and yes they had lots oil on them. motor has 250-300 runs on it. maybe more. I got some other 440 source parts I can complain about..But I can't blame the rods now.

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: Performance Only] #1373994 01/22/13 08:08 PM 01/22/13 08:08 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Quote: Could you post some good clear pictures of the front and back of the rod bearings as well as the big end bore (rod half, not cap half) of 2 or 3 connecting rods please. Yes I will take some pics for you dan

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: B G Racing] #1373995 01/22/13 08:12 PM 01/22/13 08:12 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Quote: The bushing need to be a interference fit to the rod either by heating and expanding the rod or freezing the bushing or both.Then fitting the bushing for the pin.To only press fit the bushing in the rod can cause the the bushing to come out. These was new eagle rods. the bushings was already in them, But I did have the same shop put new bushings in the 440 S rods. Have not use them yet will have to have them checked out now

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: VernMotor] #1373996 01/22/13 08:17 PM 01/22/13 08:17 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing master
B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Another thing you can look at is do the rod bearing showing wear at the crank side.If they were riding on the crank radius it can angle load the pin causing the bushing to galled. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: B G Racing] #1373997 01/22/13 08:34 PM 01/22/13 08:34 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Quote: Another thing you can look at is do the rod bearing showing wear at the crank side.If they were riding on the crank radius it can angle load the pin causing the bushing to galled. I going to put up some pics here in a min. But the rod bearing look like new so do the piston.

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: VernMotor] #1373998 01/22/13 09:07 PM 01/22/13 09:07 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Ok here is some pics This is the first time I have had the bearing out of the rods. not so pretty. ???

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: VernMotor] #1373999 01/22/13 09:40 PM 01/22/13 09:40 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 768 Ohio Dan Brewer super stock
Dan Brewer super stock Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 768 Ohio	Why no spiral locks? I would say thats your problem with the pins coming out. A833 4-speeds, parts & services http://www.brewersperformance.com/

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: Dan Brewer] #1374000 01/22/13 09:53 PM 01/22/13 09:53 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Quote: Why no spiral locks? I would say thats your problem with the pins coming out. These pistons do not use spiral locks. pins are not coming out, not all piston use spiral lock

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: VernMotor] #1374001 01/22/13 10:37 PM 01/22/13 10:37 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,245 Between a rock & a hard place C cudadoug master
cudadoug master C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,245 Between a rock & a hard place	Quote: "this is the first time I have had the bearing out of the rods. not so pretty. ???" I don't know if that's bad after 250-300 runs. That's alot of laps. That said, I'm no engine building professional, but I DID stay at a Holiday Inn last week. LOL On the rod bushing issue, I'm thinking too what the P man said: it can really be only 1 thing(my opinion) that the press fit of the bushing into the rod isnt tight enough and for some reason the pin to the bushing has more friction then the bushing to rod... the pin must have been too tight on the fit

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: VernMotor] #1374002 01/22/13 10:45 PM 01/22/13 10:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio dartman366 I Live Here
dartman366 I Live Here Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio	Quote: Well all of that was supost to been done ? block junk. going to start over with other machinist. Not to say anything bad or otherwise about the old one but you won't be sorry with the one I think you are talking about. Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: VernMotor] #1374003 01/22/13 10:48 PM 01/22/13 10:48 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 363 Aubrey, Texas O oldtimer5151 enthusiast
oldtimer5151 enthusiast O Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 363 Aubrey, Texas	What cylinders did those two bad rod bearings come out of?

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: oldtimer5151] #1374004 01/22/13 11:08 PM 01/22/13 11:08 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Quote: What cylinders did those two bad rod bearings come out of? Bad ? That was cylinder 1.

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: VernMotor] #1374005 01/22/13 11:26 PM 01/22/13 11:26 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 363 Aubrey, Texas O oldtimer5151 enthusiast
oldtimer5151 enthusiast O Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 363 Aubrey, Texas	Find you another machinist.

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: VernMotor] #1374006 01/22/13 11:37 PM 01/22/13 11:37 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,544 Syracuse,NY CompWedgeEngines master
CompWedgeEngines master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,544 Syracuse,NY	My opinion....everyone is WAAAAY overthinking this.....the pin fit was done wrong. My RIP Monte Smith Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality. WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1374007 01/22/13 11:45 PM 01/22/13 11:45 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Quote: My opinion....everyone is WAAAAY overthinking this.....the pin fit was done wrong. My I agree.. just hard to believe that I let it happen two times !

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: VernMotor] #1374008 01/22/13 11:58 PM 01/22/13 11:58 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: My opinion....everyone is WAAAAY overthinking this.....the pin fit was done wrong. My I agree.. just hard to believe that I let it happen two times ! So maybe its time time change to another guy... 2 times... and the third your out.... sorry to see you have a issue... time to sleeve it again

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: 572charger] #1374009 01/23/13 12:08 AM 01/23/13 12:08 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,568 Downtown Roebuck Ont Twostick Still wishing...
Twostick Still wishing... Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,568 Downtown Roebuck Ont	Quote: did u pin fit the rods ? all brand new rods need pin fitted to the piston pins u are useing , even my 1600..00 olivers needed done i put 9 tenths to a little over 1 thou depending on application ,no2 and blown/ turbo need more because they will gauld the pin to the bushing easy !! 440Source told me right up front the pins bushings needed to be honed to fit. Kevin

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1374010 01/23/13 12:08 AM 01/23/13 12:08 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	No sleeve , had 6 blocks sonic checked and got a good one to start with.

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: VernMotor] #1374011 01/23/13 12:15 AM 01/23/13 12:15 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: No sleeve , had 6 blocks sonic checked and got a good one to start with.

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: VernMotor] #1374012 01/23/13 12:27 AM 01/23/13 12:27 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,274 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,274 Bend,OR USA	Time to pay your dues to the guy upstairs to stop the hating, that may change your "luck" Just kidding Vern, I sincerely hope it gets better for you and yours I've seen black spots on the back of the rod bearings and in the rod where the bearing sits caused by detonation Mainly lack of fuel delivery the last three hundred in the 1/4 mile Last edited by Cab_Burge; 01/23/13 12:30 AM. Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: Cab_Burge] #1374013 01/23/13 01:21 AM 01/23/13 01:21 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Quote: Time to pay your dues to the guy upstairs to stop the hating, that may change your "luck" Just kidding Vern, I sincerely hope it gets better for you and yours I've seen black spots on the back of the rod bearings and in the rod where the bearing sits caused by detonation Mainly lack of fuel delivery the last three hundred in the 1/4 mile From the pics of the crank side of the rod bearings, you can see hammering indications/stripes. Thats a sign of detonation witch will actually Hammer worse at the pins. Your bushed pins seem to be showing that,IMO. Can you show pics of some of the piston tops of the worst involved cylinders. Last edited by Sport440; 01/23/13 02:14 AM.

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1374014 01/23/13 10:12 AM 01/23/13 10:12 AM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,050 Mooresburg, Tn ' '72CudaRacer top fuel
'72CudaRacer top fuel ' Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,050 Mooresburg, Tn	Quote: My opinion....everyone is WAAAAY overthinking this.....the pin fit was done wrong. My I absolutely agree with Todd on this. I used new Ohio Crankshaft rods on my build a few years ago and took the rods and pistons to my machine shop to have them fitted. They fitted them with approx. .0003" (if I remember correctly) like they do all of their engines (mostly BB Chev). After talking to Todd, I took them back to the shop and ask them to hone them some more, to approx .0008". They didn't want to hone them that much. We settled on approx .0006". No problems so far. They felt like the bushing were being honed to "worn out". My position to the machinist was MY rods, MY bushing, MY engine, MY responsibility. This is not a Chevy. If they are worn out in a season, I'll pay you to put new bushings in then. The problem that you (Jamie) are having is exactly what Todd warned me would happen if they were too tight. Thanks again Todd! Getting ready to start the 3rd season on this engine. It has been freshened up (bearings, rings, valve springs, ect), rod bushings still good. Brian Dunnigan

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: '72CudaRacer] #1374015 01/23/13 12:49 PM 01/23/13 12:49 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	I did go though a samll amount of time maybe 3-4 weks of having a fuel delivery problem mosty 1/8 stuff we run. but that is all fixed now.. I only run 32deg of timing .

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: VernMotor] #1374016 01/23/13 09:12 PM 01/23/13 09:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown 69dart pro stock
69dart pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,413 Johnstown	I think that was an ignition box issue causing the popping this summer - wasn't it? If I had to guess I would bet that popping and banging didnt help. What shop are you going with this time? Mann is putting all my stuff together this time around. I can't wait to get this thing back in the car. 33 Plymouth Roadster - 383 - 5.90 1/8th 9.58 1/4 68 Dart - 340 66 Belvedere - 400 Windy Hollow Garage - https://www.youtube.com/@windyhollowgarage

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: 69dart] #1374017 01/23/13 09:24 PM 01/23/13 09:24 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Yea we did have that happen too.. Shade racing is going to do it this time around.

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: VernMotor] #1374018 01/23/13 10:13 PM 01/23/13 10:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio dartman366 I Live Here
dartman366 I Live Here Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio	Quote: Yea we did have that happen too.. Shade racing is going to do it this time around. Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: dartman366] #1374019 03/04/13 11:00 PM 03/04/13 11:00 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	So the new machinist called said my crank is also cracked in many places. I said I told you it would be. He can't believe it .. so 1 1/2 years later same problems crack sleeve- crack crank and wrist pin bushing bad, the very same things wrong as before.I am starting to think it is all because of the crack sleeve. Water getting in to that cy and detonating . He wonder about the balance job ? I am not sure what to think ?

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: VernMotor] #1374020 03/04/13 11:13 PM 03/04/13 11:13 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio C CHAPPER master
CHAPPER master C Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio	Were you still running that ballast resistor with the MSD....when you were having the popin'/fuel problem...? If you like drag racing, support your local track.

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: CHAPPER] #1374021 03/04/13 11:28 PM 03/04/13 11:28 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	well did't have that going on The first time around so we can rule that out. the only two things that are the same are a crack sleeve and the Distributor and I got a new one of them coming..

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: VernMotor] #1374022 03/05/13 05:10 AM 03/05/13 05:10 AM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio dartman366 I Live Here
dartman366 I Live Here Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio	Quote: So the new machinist called said my crank is also cracked in many places. I said I told you it would be. He can't believe it .. so 1 1/2 years later same problems crack sleeve- crack crank and wrist pin bushing bad, the very same things wrong as before.I am starting to think it is all because of the crack sleeve. Water getting in to that cy and detonating . He wonder about the balance job ? I am not sure what to think ? You need a crank? got a good steel one. Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: dartman366] #1374023 03/05/13 01:45 PM 03/05/13 01:45 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	ok I got it under control. But don't let that crank go no where LOL

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: VernMotor] #1374024 03/05/13 01:53 PM 03/05/13 01:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,984 United Socialist States of Ame... T tboomer Too Many Posts
tboomer Too Many Posts T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,984 United Socialist States of Ame...	Good luck,Vern! Did you put a tranny brake in yet?? Need your rear end checked out? Contact Grizzly!!

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: tboomer] #1374025 03/05/13 02:39 PM 03/05/13 02:39 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	NO I think that going on hold for a while !

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: VernMotor] #1374026 03/05/13 03:12 PM 03/05/13 03:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio dartman366 I Live Here
dartman366 I Live Here Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio	Quote: ok I got it under control. But don't let that crank go no where LOL I don't plan on getting rid of it, but its here if you need it. Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.

Re: Here we go again ! [Re: dartman366] #1374027 03/07/13 10:42 AM 03/07/13 10:42 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,591 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis I Live Here
hemi-itis I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,591 Great Neck,LI,new york	Damm Vern,that's enough to give mr GRAY hair,,,,,,,,,,,wait..........I already have grey hair Very fustrating what your going through,hope the new machinist cures that problem! HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

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