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Headers and Mini starter #1373714 01/21/13 06:08 PM 01/21/13 06:08 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 322 Itasca, Texas Mad_Scientist OP enthusiast
Mad_Scientist OP enthusiast Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 322 Itasca, Texas	I am looking to ditch my old Hooker 2" Super Comps, but can't find anything that will fit with my mini torque starter. I have two sets of 1 3/4" headers in my garage (Summit and Headman) and neither one of them fit. I have called Flowtech and Hooker and both say that their headers won't fit with the mini starter even though the current Hookers do fit. So my conclusion is that they don't really know and are just blowing me off. I am planning to pull the motor for a Hemi build within a year or two, so the TTI's would be a big investment that wouldn't bolt back in. Are there any sub $300 headers that will fit? The car has a 440, PS, Eddy heads, and the mini torque starter. 69 Super Bee 440 5-speed 70 Dart Swinger 340 4-speed 69 Camaro SS 396 4-speed 66 Cutlass Convertilbe 70 Judge Ram Air III 4-speed 68 F-100 SWB

Re: Headers and Mini starter [Re: Mad_Scientist] #1373715 01/21/13 07:29 PM 01/21/13 07:29 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 322 Itasca, Texas Mad_Scientist OP enthusiast
Mad_Scientist OP enthusiast Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 322 Itasca, Texas	Oops, 69 Super Bee... 69 Super Bee 440 5-speed 70 Dart Swinger 340 4-speed 69 Camaro SS 396 4-speed 66 Cutlass Convertilbe 70 Judge Ram Air III 4-speed 68 F-100 SWB

Re: Headers and Mini starter [Re: Mad_Scientist] #1373716 01/21/13 08:04 PM 01/21/13 08:04 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,805 Arlington, Texas B bobby66 master
bobby66 master B Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,805 Arlington, Texas	Or, pick up a reman. original starter and run that until the Hemi is ready.

Re: Headers and Mini starter [Re: bobby66] #1373717 01/21/13 08:08 PM 01/21/13 08:08 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,698 NE Oklahoma V Von master
Von master V Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,698 NE Oklahoma	Why you ditching the Hookers? Plug to header issues? 72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72. Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.

Re: Headers and Mini starter [Re: Von] #1373718 01/21/13 08:22 PM 01/21/13 08:22 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 322 Itasca, Texas Mad_Scientist OP enthusiast
Mad_Scientist OP enthusiast Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 322 Itasca, Texas	I have a couple of old core starters, but that big heavy starter is just so weak. I bought the Hooker headers used and they were kind of banged up. The guy assured me that they were off a 69 B body, but the header tubes touched the plugs. I had to beat them in pretty good to get clearance and I still had to run a shorty Accel plug. Now I am running the MSD fuel injection and it is really sensitive to exhaust leaks. The headers appear to be leaking around the exhaust ports when I looked at the new gaskets. When I let off the gas, I get a faint popping through the pipes as well. I feel like the exhaust leaks are the issue. 69 Super Bee 440 5-speed 70 Dart Swinger 340 4-speed 69 Camaro SS 396 4-speed 66 Cutlass Convertilbe 70 Judge Ram Air III 4-speed 68 F-100 SWB

Re: Headers and Mini starter [Re: Von] #1373719 01/21/13 08:24 PM 01/21/13 08:24 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 3,426 weymouth,mass. M meepmeep70 master
meepmeep70 master M Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 3,426 weymouth,mass.	DOUGS headers from summit? i put the ceramic ones in my 70 road runner 440,i installed real easy and plug fit is perfect no burnt boots or light shows at night lol

Re: Headers and Mini starter [Re: meepmeep70] #1373720 01/21/13 08:33 PM 01/21/13 08:33 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 322 Itasca, Texas Mad_Scientist OP enthusiast
Mad_Scientist OP enthusiast Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 322 Itasca, Texas	Quote: DOUGS headers from summit? i put the ceramic ones in my 70 road runner 440,i installed real easy and plug fit is perfect no burnt boots or light shows at night lol Those look really nice, but I hate to spend $534 the bare one that will go in the trash after next year when the Hemi makes its appearance, hehe. 69 Super Bee 440 5-speed 70 Dart Swinger 340 4-speed 69 Camaro SS 396 4-speed 66 Cutlass Convertilbe 70 Judge Ram Air III 4-speed 68 F-100 SWB

Re: Headers and Mini starter [Re: Mad_Scientist] #1373721 01/22/13 01:26 AM 01/22/13 01:26 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 961 Carson City, Nevada RobbMc super stock
RobbMc super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 961 Carson City, Nevada	How about a mini starter that will clear the headers you have? http://www.robbmcperformance.com/products/mopar_starter.html Designing a better mouse trap always seems to lead to the evolution of smarter mice. www.robbmcperformance.com

Re: Headers and Mini starter [Re: RobbMc] #1373722 01/22/13 11:14 AM 01/22/13 11:14 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,002 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,002 U.S.S.A.	Quote: How about a mini starter that will clear the headers you have? http://www.robbmcperformance.com/products/mopar_starter.html I think your mini starter would be the ticket for him to switch to the cheapy headers ... his issue is the mini with the cheapy headers , he can reuse the starter with the hemi ... I have a set of hedman 1 7/8 that clear the mini starter, but they don't make this model of header anymore. I don't know how they will work with angle plug heads though.

Re: Headers and Mini starter [Re: Mad_Scientist] #1373723 01/22/13 12:44 PM 01/22/13 12:44 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,245 Between a rock & a hard place C cudadoug master
cudadoug master C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,245 Between a rock & a hard place	Quote: I have a couple of old core starters, but that big heavy starter is just so weak. I bought the Hooker headers used and they were kind of banged up. The guy assured me that they were off a 69 B body, but the header tubes touched the plugs. I had to beat them in pretty good to get clearance and I still had to run a shorty Accel plug. Now I am running the MSD fuel injection and it is really sensitive to exhaust leaks. The headers appear to be leaking around the exhaust ports when I looked at the new gaskets. When I let off the gas, I get a faint popping through the pipes as well. I feel like the exhaust leaks are the issue. 1) Cut the flanges apart to "seperate" the tubes 2) Use a OEM exhaust manifold gaskets cut to match the seperated flanges.

Re: Headers and Mini starter [Re: cudadoug] #1373724 01/22/13 01:31 PM 01/22/13 01:31 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA S StealthWedge67 master
StealthWedge67 master S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA	I run a mini started with hooker comp's (1-7/8") and have no issues whatsoever. Mine is a low-deck block in a 67 B-body, though there appears to be plenty of clearance below the starter, and an RB would actually create more room by moving the header a little further outboard of the block (???). LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120

Re: Headers and Mini starter [Re: StealthWedge67] #1373725 01/22/13 04:04 PM 01/22/13 04:04 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,271 Vista, California 6 67Satty pro stock
67Satty pro stock 6 Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,271 Vista, California	Yeah, same deal here. I run the Hooker 1 and 7/8" headers on a 440 with a mini starter and no problems at all.

Re: Headers and Mini starter [Re: 67Satty] #1373726 01/23/13 02:20 AM 01/23/13 02:20 AM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 322 Itasca, Texas Mad_Scientist OP enthusiast
Mad_Scientist OP enthusiast Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 322 Itasca, Texas	Lots of good ideas here. I like that starter too.... I'll try some of the tips and then see what happens. Thanks all!!!! 69 Super Bee 440 5-speed 70 Dart Swinger 340 4-speed 69 Camaro SS 396 4-speed 66 Cutlass Convertilbe 70 Judge Ram Air III 4-speed 68 F-100 SWB

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