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Denso 60 amp wiring.................... #1372823
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Sorry guys but my dumb azz can`t find the diagram that shows which wires go where on the back of my alt. I think one is constant 12v and the other keyed but don`t remember............ Thankxxx.......


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Re: Denso 60 amp wiring.................... [Re: Thumperdart] #1372824
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Here is the simple version of the wiring but you can
figure it out from this

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Here is the simple version of the wiring but you can
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No I can`t...........


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Found it...........so I don`t use the lamp wire and the ign is direct 12v so is the sense wire keyed 12?


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Found it...........so I don`t use the lamp wire and the ign is direct 12v so is the sense wire keyed 12?




My Denso is 2 field wires... 1 is 12v the other is
keyed 12v... one is the sense wire the other is the
trigger wire(which turns on and off to tell the alt
what to do)... mine doesnt have the third wire which
is the idiot light

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Dom that ? depends on which alt you have the pic Mr-P showed is for the mopar style one (remote reg), not the toyota



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Denso 60 amp...........it has 3 wires; a sense, ign. and lamp which I didn`t use before.


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I remembered seeing this awhile back http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/elec/34.html



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I remembered seeing this awhile back http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/elec/34.html


That`s it...........thankxxx. Couldn`t I jump the sense wire directly to the 12v post on the alt?


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I remembered seeing this awhile back http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/elec/34.html


That`s it...........thankxxx. Couldn`t I jump the sense wire directly to the 12v post on the alt?


Any wireing bad dogs know if I can jump the sense wire directly to the alt. 12v post?


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When I was doing the swap to the toyo-denso I read somewhere that you could do something like that, although they took it apart and did it internally, IIRC.

The whole point of running the sense wire to the battery is that it will tell the alternator what the voltage is after all of the power draws such as your ignition, lights, electronic accessories, etc.

Not sure what your plans are for your car. On a drag car it may not make much difference if you are hooking it to a battery charger between runs and not using an electric water pump or fuel pump and the like, and your only power draw is the ignition. On a street car though, by the time you add up running a hot stereo, headlights, ignition, A/C and all of that you may actually be seeing very poor voltage going toward recharging the battery.

If I was to set up a car, I would run it to the battery regardless. Oh, one thing that doesn't come up often in this discussion, on some toyota units the dummy light wire also serves as the trigger wire. Mine would not charge at all until I wired it in.


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Thankxxx..............street car but no stereo and I went ahead and wired it up like before and I had no charging problems w/not hooking up the light wire...............


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Myself I wouldnt put the sense wire right on the alt...
it would sense the voltage at the alt and not the battery
and drive the alt voltage down.. that sure wouldnt be
the same as the battery... it will not take into account
of any line drop... I picked up my point from a continuous
duty solenoid so its seeing one of the lowest voltages
in the car and the battery is seeing 14.9 volt

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Myself I wouldnt put the sense wire right on the alt...
it would sense the voltage at the alt and not the battery
and drive the alt voltage down.. that sure wouldnt be
the same as the battery... it will not take into account
of any line drop... I picked up my point from a continuous
duty solenoid so its seeing one of the lowest voltages
in the car and the battery is seeing 14.9 volt



I ended up wiring it the same as before and it worked great.............some things we shouldn`t change. Just a few more wires to hook up and we`re done there then it`s cover dash, paint roll bar and finish the interior then off to Irwindale for my 6.15 @ 111 mph............


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