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Re: Doing It Right The First Time [Re: Sb Valiant] #1372774
01/21/13 01:12 PM
01/21/13 01:12 PM
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Not attacking you at all!!! Now all these guys know what you have to work with and now can help you within your budget and time frame. One last bit of advice. Spend money where you need to to get this car to the track.No more!!! Get to the track as often as you can and have fun. Then when you get to the ripe age of 21 and have a job you can add to what you have. Thats if you don't have a girl friend


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Re: Doing It Right The First Time [Re: Sb Valiant] #1372775
01/21/13 01:26 PM
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My plan is to build probaly a real small stroker maybe just a 372 cubic inch engine. I don't need 416 to run in the 10's.




Its going to cost the same amount of money to build a 416 as it would to build the 372. The 416 would require less RPM to run the same ET as the smaller motor, therefore it would be easier on parts. For a bracket car, you're better off building the bigger engine and turning less RPM, its going to be easier on valve train and everything else.

My last engine was a 318 with a 4" crank = 390" it went 10.75@123 shifting at 6600RPM at 3500#, a similar engine in your car will go 10.0


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Re: Doing It Right The First Time [Re: Triple Threat] #1372776
01/21/13 01:44 PM
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The thing that gets me is yes I would like an engine to turn less rpm and be easier on parts but I don't want the engine to be a 10.0 engine because the car itself won't make it there the way it is now. It might be good for 10.40-10.50's and that's if we get everything we have now set right. Anything past this I can't see happening without getting a way better suspension then what we got!

Re: Doing It Right The First Time [Re: Sb Valiant] #1372777
01/21/13 01:54 PM
01/21/13 01:54 PM
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The thing that gets me is yes I would like an engine to turn less rpm and be easier on parts but I don't want the engine to be a 10.0 engine because the car itself won't make it there the way it is now. It might be good for 10.40-10.50's and that's if we get everything we have now set right. Anything past this I can't see happening without getting a way better suspension then what we got!




Dont be sure about that. I have a buddy that has a 72 Duster, stock front suspension and super stock springs on the rear, nothing special, that has gone low 10.20's. His car weighs 3200 and he has a 408.

Re: Doing It Right The First Time [Re: Triple Threat] #1372778
01/21/13 02:05 PM
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You know what maybe I should just forget about the roller lifters and roller cam. Just get a set of crane gold roller rockers. Run my 557 or 590 purple shaft. I can always go to a 1.6 rocker and make the cam I have now bigger! Build a 416 stroker I have a 750 cfm carb I can use for now and later upgrade to a 850 or 950. I have a set of headers but they are just to far out there to run. I'll build another set. Do very little work to heads and intake. Get some 4.56 gears for the car and new shocks and run her. Does this sound 10 second worthy and on a budget? I am only looking for mid 10's at best.

Re: Doing It Right The First Time [Re: Sb Valiant] #1372779
01/21/13 02:06 PM
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So you can either put less camshaft in it, short shift, pull timing, limit throttle or do many other things. Its really easy to slow a car down if you need to.

Heres what I would do if I was you;

408-416"
10:1 compression
Scat rotating assembly
Camshaft around [Email]250@.050[/Email] 550 lift
Your W2's cleaned up with springs to match the cam
Your intake
750 carb is plenty
a GOOD 8" converter ~5000 stall

Gear/ tire it so you cross the stripe just a touch higher than where you shift.

That combo will go high 10's at 2800# with EASE, and live for years. It will also run on pump gas which will save you money and allow you to race more often. You don't need 12:1 compression and you don't need or want to turn 7000+ if you don't have to.

That's my opinion, I'm a 26 year old kid who has been racing since I got my license. I have raced on a tight budget and have been in your shoes before. I'm a bracket racer and put 200-300 runs a year on my car, so I've learned what it takes to get the job done.

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Re: Doing It Right The First Time [Re: Triple Threat] #1372780
01/21/13 02:33 PM
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I like this combination. I am glad you know where I am coming from! The purple shaft cam that I have is either a 252 at .050 or 265 at .050. Depending on the lift of the cam wether it's the 557 which has the 252 or the 590 which has the 265. This cam I have is in very reasonable condition and if it wouldn't be to bad for this combo I would love to use it! Getting heads and intake to match the cam and getting the right springs won't be a problem! I like the fact of saving money and being out more often running the pump gas! I really can't put up a grand for a new converter so there is 2 options there. Have the converter reworked if I have the extra money or just run it the way it is. It's a tci 10" 4000 stall. The tire is a 29.5x10.5 hoosier.

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