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Doing It Right The First Time #1372734
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I only want to buy a set of roller rockers once! I need a set that has a warranty if something breaks. For drag racing use only and rpms under 7500. Rockers that are needed are for W-2 Econo heads.

Re: Doing It Right The First Time [Re: Sb Valiant] #1372735
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I only want to buy a set of roller rockers once! I need a set that has a warranty if something breaks. For drag racing use only and rpms under 7500. Rockers that are needed are for W-2 Econo heads.




Warranty and racing dont go in the same sentence...
you want the best you can afford... I used the old
MP rockers(Crane made them).. they have a roller tip
but the shaft area was no bushing and rode on the shaft
and they worked well for years... now days all I use
is TD rockers... pricey but they work great.. this
pic is the set for a W-2 econo head

7554529-DSC00060.JPG (73 downloads)
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I know some people that run very fast that run T&D rockers and say they are the best. I think harland sharps are ok and varly reasonable but they do tend to have there problems. I guess Norris rockers are post to be real nice pieces. Crane golds are post to be ok but some say stay far away from them.. So looks like between T&D or Norris is the best I am guessing?

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Its a matter of what the wallet says... the rest of
your engine is far from being maxed out but if you
can afford the best then buy then buy the best

Re: Doing It Right The First Time [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1372738
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I use TDs on my w-2s and spin to 8500. Never a problem after 3 years (n and I bought them used).
I used to break Harland Sharps once or twice a season

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Re: Doing It Right The First Time [Re: mloboda] #1372739
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What rockers are on your heads now? Post up a picture of your heads, I'm pretty sure I saw that they are Race W2s from a pic I saw you posted previously.

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I must be missing something here. I thought the kid was on a tight budget and now he's talking $1200 rockers

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I must be missing something here. I thought the kid was on a tight budget and now he's talking $1200 rockers




I thought so also but I'm not asking that... he asked
a question.. I will answer to the best of my ability
thats all... then its his choice

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Here is a few pics of the rockers we have now when they were on the car.

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Re: Doing It Right The First Time [Re: Sb Valiant] #1372744
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Whats wrong with them ?

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All the more I'll go is hs rockers if I do decide to run rollers and if I have the money!

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bad geometry and very ancient. Also not post to run these type of rockers with anything over 550 lift cam. I don't have any other pictures but I can get one since they are off the car and the adjusters are bad.

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Maybe someone knows how to make these type of rockers work under a small block stroker and a 557 or 590 lift purple shaft cam. Rpm range around 6800-7200. Hp maybe like 450 hp.

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Maybe someone knows how to make these type of rockers work under a small block stroker and a 557 or 590 lift purple shaft cam. Rpm range around 6800-7200. Hp maybe like 450 hp.


Econo W2 and a stroker, yor really going to have to mess that combination up to have it only make 450 HP using a Mopar cam is a good start to acheive that goal


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Re: Doing It Right The First Time [Re: Sb Valiant] #1372749
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Maybe someone knows how to make these type of rockers work under a small block stroker and a 557 or 590 lift purple shaft cam. Rpm range around 6800-7200. Hp maybe like 450 hp.




Your looking to run in the 10's right???
2800 lbs
340
econo W2's
Compression ratio???
With all I have read about your parts the .557 is a very good choice for you....
Check your springs and make sure you are not killing the seat pressure...... aim for 130 to 140 lbs

One thing you may be overlooking is your converter.... have you confirmed you have a good 8" in there........... if not this is where to spend your money.......

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Re: Doing It Right The First Time [Re: Cab_Burge] #1372750
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Maybe someone knows how to make these type of rockers work under a small block stroker and a 557 or 590 lift purple shaft cam. Rpm range around 6800-7200. Hp maybe like 450 hp.


Econo W2 and a stroker, yor really going to have to mess that combination up to have it only make 450 HP using a Mopar cam is a good start to acheive that goal




Cab, Brock lives app one hour from me and I TRIED to point him in a direction that he could build a low maintenance engine on a budget that would run 10's. Pump gas, 6400-6500 rpm, 520-550 lift solid cam, his W2 heads and a good intake (I like the W2 Victor). Hopefully his chassis works well enough and a 5200-5500 convertor. In his 2800# car that combo should go 10.20's-10.50's

I had to edit this to add that I also recommended using a H beem connecting rod instead of wasting money reconditioning stock rods.

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Brock lives app one hour from me and I TRIED to point him in a direction that he could build a low maintenance engine on a budget that would run 10's. Pump gas, 6400-6500 rpm, 520-550 lift solid cam, his W2 heads and a good intake (I like the W2 Victor). Hopefully his chassis works well enough and a 5200-5500 convertor. In his 2800# car that combo should go 10.20's-10.50's

I had to edit this to add that I also recommended using a H beem connecting rod instead of wasting money reconditioning stock rods.




From what I hear he has a few people TRYING to help
him out but some are saying they are talking to deaf
ears... I dont know but I sure hope he listens to
a few of them... that should help him and save him
time and money

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Maybe someone knows how to make these type of rockers work under a small block stroker and a 557 or 590 lift purple shaft cam. Rpm range around 6800-7200. Hp maybe like 450 hp.


Econo W2 and a stroker, yor really going to have to mess that combination up to have it only make 450 HP using a Mopar cam is a good start to acheive that goal




Cab, Brock lives app one hour from me and I TRIED to point him in a direction that he could build a low maintenance engine on a budget that would run 10's. Pump gas, 6400-6500 rpm, 520-550 lift solid cam, his W2 heads and a good intake (I like the W2 Victor). Hopefully his chassis works well enough and a 5200-5500 convertor. In his 2800# car that combo should go 10.20's-10.50's




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I had to edit this to add that I also recommended using a H beem connecting rod instead of wasting money reconditioning stock rods.



If he changes rods will he not need a re-balance??? Good rod bolts and a re-size will work at that RPM.........
What pistons?? how heavy are they??

Re: Doing It Right The First Time [Re: pittsburghracer] #1372753
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Maybe someone knows how to make these type of rockers work under a small block stroker and a 557 or 590 lift purple shaft cam. Rpm range around 6800-7200. Hp maybe like 450 hp.


Econo W2 and a stroker, yor really going to have to mess that combination up to have it only make 450 HP using a Mopar cam is a good start to acheive that goal




Cab, Brock lives app one hour from me and I TRIED to point him in a direction that he could build a low maintenance engine on a budget that would run 10's. Pump gas, 6400-6500 rpm, 520-550 lift solid cam, his W2 heads and a good intake (I like the W2 Victor). Hopefully his chassis works well enough and a 5200-5500 convertor. In his 2800# car that combo should go 10.20's-10.50's

I had to edit this to add that I also recommended using a H beem connecting rod instead of wasting money reconditioning stock rods.


I ran a .550/.557 Lunati cam in my first 360 and ran Harlan Sharps and never had a problem with them, and know several others that have run them for years also with out failures.


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