Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: ECS]
#137124
10/16/08 12:35 AM
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Alaskan_TA
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It will be completely disassembled and touched up (where needed) in order to look like new.
So, no longer a survivor, and not restored either?
It sounds like a total waste of an original reference car to me.
You do great work, I know that. But it may be time to consult a therapist........
Best of luck.
Barry
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: Alaskan_TA]
#137125
10/16/08 12:54 AM
10/16/08 12:54 AM
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That's kind of "stacking the deck" IMO. Sounds more like detailing than a restoration, no research and how could anyone challenge correctness? I agree with AK T/A. So which came first the car or the idea? I thought you were always up to the challenge, this is too easy. I have an A-body '69 M-Code 440 Dart that I'll let you "restore", enter in the judging and I'll let you keep the trophy as the trade for the work, now there's a challenge Come on Dave cleaning up a survivor is way to easy for your talents, do my M-code Dart or how about a rare color Y4 Gold 69-1/2 A12 coupe road runner, MikeR
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: A12]
#137126
10/16/08 01:27 AM
10/16/08 01:27 AM
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how could anyone challenge correctness?
Awww....does this take all the fun out of nitpicking reproduction carpet and package trays for some of you guys? Is that the real problem here? A new car! Just like it was delivered when new. No challenge!? No research!? You obviously don't know me too well. When all is said in done, there will be more documentation and new A Body products available than ever before. One last note....you guys mention the cars that you own and what you are going to do or not going to do with them. Has it ever occurred to you that I have NEVER criticized the work you do or what you decide to do with what you own? I didn't realize that a situation that has no affect on some of you seems to be such a bother. Why don't some of you guys "unofficially" adopt me so when you tell me what I can or cannot do with MY vehicles it will seem a little more parental and acceptable!?! Quit being so self centered and appreciate the good things that might come from this and what could be beneficial to others. If you have a survivor and decide to leave it as is, that is your business. I certainly am not so high and mighty that I find it necessary to tell everyone what they should or should not do to what they own. The hobby benefits and it doesn't cost any of you a second of your time or a penny out of your pocket. Give it a break!
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: ECS]
#137127
10/16/08 02:13 AM
10/16/08 02:13 AM
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<snip> In 2010 (the good Lord willing) we will be bringing a BRAND SPANKING NEW 1970 BLACK A BODY PLYMOUTH to be entered in the OE competition. <snip>
A 3-on-the-tree/318/8.75 rubber mat Valiant? Now that would be cool!
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: A12]
#137129
10/16/08 05:06 AM
10/16/08 05:06 AM
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Naawwwww, just meant the OE judges couldn't take points from it for say; having the incorrect hood hinge color for instance. Shooting fish in a barrel, pretty smart way of getting that 100 point car if it's all original eh?
Makes sense to me.
You put back paint marks that you have picture proof were there orginally. A basket case isn't a great car to make OE. Forget the challenge part of it, the worse shape the car is the more stuff you have to interpolate. Interpolate and exact are not the same thing.
Problem is finding a boarderline survivor/non-survivor car to do it too.
A good example of a car to do it to was a car like Troy's T/A. 40K mile car, orginal paint, original suspension, original interior, California car, no rust, one owner, tons of paperwork. But had the motor rebuilt and engine compartment spray canned black. There aren't that many paint daubs/markings and such on a motor, so that's not a super big OE deal. But once a motor has been rebuilt and repainted, it's killed as a survivor. If that T/A just had black interior I bet most of it would have been perfect to just re-use.
Or find a survivor type car with just one repaint.
There was a burnt orange 70 Hemi Cuda column shift car that sold last year out here on ebay. Like 70K to 90K miles. Original suspension. One repaint, black interior, uncracked dash?... But I think it had a non numbers motor, so that would eliminate it.
The cars are out there.
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: Alaskan_TA]
#137130
10/16/08 07:18 AM
10/16/08 07:18 AM
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"You do great work, I know that. But it may be time to consult a therapist........ "WoW....Glad I didn't say that I think it's an interesting idea.... I think the only challenge would be removing the rust from suspension componets and area of the painted surface (ie: trunk area) that didn't get enough paint from the factory and now has rust. Will the car require any painting? How will you address factory sloppiness, or errors? Will they be corrected? Will you clean and reuse the original spark plugs, points, plug wires etc.... How well will it run? By saying 70 Plymouth A Body and NOT saying Duster, are you saying it's a Scamp or Valiant? How may doors does it have? Wasn't this done before to an orange 70 Charger R/T? I remember reading something in a magazine awhile back. MY OPINION: It's unfortunate that after two years of reseach and labour, from the topside, thecar will look the same as it does today. Maybe it's just me, but I prefer seeing a basket case being brought back to life.... Good luck with your new choosen endevours
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: AdamR]
#137132
10/16/08 08:09 AM
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I think Dave is trying to accomplish more with this one other than a perfect car. I believe that upon completion of this car, he will be able to show the minimal time, and minimal investment it is going to take to achieve a beautiful ride! With this, I would guess that it may open peoples eyes to the fact that a perfect car just doesn't have to be a hemi cuda, daytona, or droptop. How about a standard everyday grocery getter that sits in everyone's back yard that everyone of us pass by. Those cars are cheap and easy to find parts for and everyone with a little common sense and some spare change can get one going, therefore bringing that many more people into the hobby. Correct me if I'm wrong Dave.
Chris from New Jersey
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: Alaskan_TA]
#137137
10/16/08 09:04 AM
10/16/08 09:04 AM
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You do great work, I know that. But it may be time to consult a therapist........ :twocents
Barry, I believe you to be one of the good guys in this hobby, and that's why I must say that your comments were uncalled for and quite frankly beneath you. Please consider deleting them.
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: 340wedge]
#137138
10/16/08 09:05 AM
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Yep....its time for you to lay down and rest and talk to the Dr. A $10 script might save you alot of $$$$$$$ down the road. However if this is a related post, today is a new day I think he was just being funny....relax a bit. Its his idea, his project, his $$$$,.... go for it. But now...this is a bit extreme..."It even has the original air in all 5 tires." Can we get some of that org air for testing
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: fig426]
#137139
10/16/08 09:08 AM
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I think Dave is trying to accomplish more with this one other than a perfect car. I believe that upon completion of this car, he will be able to show the minimal time, and minimal investment it is going to take to achieve a beautiful ride! With this, I would guess that it may open peoples eyes to the fact that a perfect car just doesn't have to be a hemi cuda, daytona, or droptop. How about a standard everyday grocery getter that sits in everyone's back yard that everyone of us pass by. Those cars are cheap and easy to find parts for and everyone with a little common sense and some spare change can get one going, therefore bringing that many more people into the hobby. Correct me if I'm wrong Dave. [/quot anybody can go out and buy a car like that.you can go to any museum and see cars like that. i would say stick with selling parts and leave the cars alone.
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: A12]
#137140
10/16/08 09:56 AM
10/16/08 09:56 AM
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When this project gets started let me be the first one to call you out on proving ALL FIVE of those tires have 100% carbon dated 1970 air in them ....... Try to lighten up a little, it’s better for your health.
MikeR
I have nothing to prove or answer to you about concerning my project. As a matter of fact why don’t you prove it is not the factory air since that statement seems to bother you so much.
You might consider following your own advice. You seem to be the one who is bothered by circumstances that are none of your business.
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: anlauto]
#137141
10/16/08 09:59 AM
10/16/08 09:59 AM
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Dave This is a pretty BOLD statement that may come back to haunt you...
And what do you base YOUR statement on Alan? When you looked at the car, what did you see that might cause you to make that particular comment?
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