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Re: BATTERY CABLE QUESTION............................... [Re: Dart1031] #1360228
12/29/12 11:08 AM 12/29/12 11:08 AM
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Buy an 8lb. Lithium battery and put it back up front. You'll save 30lbs from the battery you have now and have 10 less feet of cable. Plus you can remove the cut off switch and save more weight.



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Re: BATTERY CABLE QUESTION............................... [Re: dvw] #1360229
12/29/12 11:18 AM 12/29/12 11:18 AM
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I'll bet more mobile homes have been destroyed by aluminum wire than have been taken out by tornadoes.

1970 Duster
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5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
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Re: BATTERY CABLE QUESTION............................... [Re: pittsburghracer] #1360230
12/29/12 11:30 AM 12/29/12 11:30 AM
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Aluminum wire is all we use for transmission lines. I haven't seen a lot of those burning down.

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Re: BATTERY CABLE QUESTION............................... [Re: pittsburghracer] #1360231
12/29/12 11:32 AM 12/29/12 11:32 AM
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Here is a wiring chart we use, if you know how many amps your starter pulls and how long the cable is here's your answer. We use 1 gauge on most everything.

I second the lithium battery, cost more upfront but lightweight and compact. I like the Prolite Lithium batteries www.prolitebatteries.com

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Re: BATTERY CABLE QUESTION............................... [Re: Plumb Wired] #1360232
12/29/12 12:11 PM 12/29/12 12:11 PM
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summit or jeg sells light weight starter to battery cables they are very lite
Re: BATTERY CABLE QUESTION............................... [Re: 1967dartgt] #1360233
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422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time
Re: BATTERY CABLE QUESTION............................... [Re: Crizila] #1360234
12/29/12 12:31 PM 12/29/12 12:31 PM
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Can`t find the post about min size cable needed from starter to pass side trunk mounted battery. Now I run this heavy cobbled together welding cable and it needs to go so what`s the gauge I need pleeezzzeee.........

Stick with 1 gauge and you won't have any problems. Thats what I use ( bought a trunk mount kit ). I also ground to the frame rail just under the trunk mounted battery.

What he said!

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Re: BATTERY CABLE QUESTION............................... [Re: Crizila] #1360235
12/29/12 12:39 PM 12/29/12 12:39 PM
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MSD says run 2 gauge welding cable.
Also per MSD I run a #4 gauge welding cable from each head to the side of the block where I also run the MSD ground wire and from there run a #4 gauge cable to the neg- side of the battery! Solved a Hi-Speed miss for me a few years back.

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Re: BATTERY CABLE QUESTION............................... [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1360236
12/29/12 12:51 PM 12/29/12 12:51 PM
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I put this in my car 2 years ago and it works great, It is aluminum with a copper coating. They used to sale the 2 gauge red in a 20 ft roll now it's only in a 100 ft, So just buy black and use red heat shrink on the positive side.

My car lost 6.5 lbs.

http://www.jegs.com/i/Accel/110/1849/10002/-1?parentProductId=
Re: BATTERY CABLE QUESTION............................... [Re: Thumperdart] #1360237
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Dom it' good to run to a insulated stud or bulkhead connector (like dvw showed) at the dash area and feed the rest of the car. That way you are not using the starter as a junction block.

I would use #1 from battery to block, then #2 to starter.

Have fun


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Re: BATTERY CABLE QUESTION............................... [Re: Just-a-dart] #1360238
12/29/12 01:28 PM 12/29/12 01:28 PM
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Thump the only safe way to do this is with a clamp on amp meter and use the chart... or fuse the cable

Re: BATTERY CABLE QUESTION............................... [Re: Just-a-dart] #1360239
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Thankxxx everyone.............lots of nice ideas and options to go with and I`ll figure it out soon enuff. I like the insulated bulkhead idea although I don`t totally understand how it isolates the starter but I`ll see if Pettis has something like that or maybe it`s a hardware store deal. Do you run the cable IN the car? I want to keep my batt in the trun cos I went through hell setting it up that way plus it looks "racier" and that`s my gig...............

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Re: BATTERY CABLE QUESTION............................... [Re: WHITEDART] #1360240
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they dom thanks for that 411 they were close today .but I will try next week . now the battery cable.. you can shorten it up and save some weight by moving the motor to the back of the car

Your welcome.Well that`s going to change things up a bit.............will definately need wheelie bars.....

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Re: BATTERY CABLE QUESTION............................... [Re: dvw] #1360241
12/29/12 02:34 PM 12/29/12 02:34 PM
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Copper:aluminum = apples:oranges

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Re: BATTERY CABLE QUESTION............................... [Re: polyspheric] #1360242
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Dom,
I edited my post and finally got the diagram to post. For anyone else moving your battery to the trunk while retaining the stock wiring harness here is one way to do it. If you can't read it I can email anyone a copy for your own use or you can repost it here in larger print. If this modification has already been posted, sorry for the repost. So here it is again.

Re: BATTERY CABLE QUESTION............................... [Re: krw71ragtop] #1360243
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Dom,
I edited my post and finally got the diagram to post. For anyone else moving your battery to the trunk while retaining the stock wiring harness here is one way to do it. If you can't read it I can email anyone a copy for your own use or you can repost it here in larger print. If this modification has already been posted, sorry for the repost. So here it is again.

Thank you sir.......

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Re: BATTERY CABLE QUESTION............................... [Re: Thumperdart] #1360244
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Re: BATTERY CABLE QUESTION............................... [Re: rickseeman] #1360245
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Looks nice enuff.........I`ll call em when I`m ready still and grinding away...............

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Re: BATTERY CABLE QUESTION............................... [Re: Thumperdart] #1360246
12/30/12 07:11 PM 12/30/12 07:11 PM
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Look close in that link. It is what I had. "copper coated aluminum strands". If it was true 2/0 copper, the only weight saving would be in the insulation. Does this stuff work? I was to chicken to try it.
Doug
Re: BATTERY CABLE QUESTION............................... [Re: dvw] #1360247
12/30/12 07:22 PM 12/30/12 07:22 PM
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If you use mil spec wire, you can run 1-2 gauges smaller than commercial/auto wire.

http://www.wiremasters.net/Products/22759.aspx
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