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Re: 572 Ray Barton HP guess [Re: Bishop] #1358320
12/25/12 08:49 PM
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My flat tappet, x-ram 528 Barton Hemi made 829, so I'm guessing 920-935. Ket usknow how it turned out....

Re: 572 Ray Barton HP guess [Re: Bishop] #1358321
12/26/12 11:06 AM
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Hopefuuly the 727 will last a little while its got all the best parts A&A has to offer & a Griner brake

Merry Christmas everyone Brian


What 1st gear set did you put in the 727? 2.45, 2.28, 2.10 ?
And did you upgrade the input shaft and hub it attaches to?
http://aandatrans.com/Products/727-Stainless-Steel-Input-Shaft-Hub__22575S.aspx


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Re: 572 Ray Barton HP guess [Re: Bishop] #1358322
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Hopefuuly the 727 will last a little while its got all the best parts A&A has to offer & a Griner brake

Merry Christmas everyone Brian



I run a full rollerized 727, no issues. The killer is nitrous that puts the torque through the roof! Thats when stuff starts to break.


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Re: 572 Ray Barton HP guess [Re: gregsdart] #1358323
02/06/13 07:34 PM
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I made it to the shop today @ K&K in Huber Heights Ohio today. A big thanks to Bob & Ted Kammer and Greg on the Dyno. Well it made 895HP @6500 RPM & 781 TRQ @ 4700 It looks like the unmodified Ray Barton Crossman lost 25 HP, ran it to 7000RPM HP fell off slightly. 112 gas and best timing @ 28 degree total. I'll post Dyno sheet later.

Brian

Going in a 68 dart 3400lbs with me in it ET & MPH????

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Re: 572 Ray Barton HP guess [Re: Bishop] #1358324
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"but we should take bets on how long the 727 last before it splits in two . "


My 572 Wedge B Body at 3550lbs.with single 1250 Quickfuel and Brake has not broke my 727 yet(500 + passes so far) but it also has all of the A&A goodies in it and I check it every year!



"Going in a 68 dart 3400lbs with me in it ET & MPH????"




My heads do not flow anywhere near what yours do and I am able to run mid to low 9"s at 100 lbs. more than you so I would think high 8's should not be a problem.


" best timing @ 28 degree total."
Is this typical for a Hemi ?

Mike

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Re: 572 Ray Barton HP guess [Re: 70satelliteguy] #1358325
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"but we should take bets on how long the 727 last before it splits in two . "
My 572 Wedge B Body at 3550lbs.with single 1250 Quickfuel and Brake has not broke my 727 yet(500 + passes so far) but it also has all of the A&A goodies in it and I check it every year!
My heads do not flow anywhere near what yours do and I am able to run mid to low 9"s at 100 lbs. more than you so I would think high 8's should not be a problem.
" best timing @ 28 degree total."
Is this typical for a Hemi vs. a Wedge?
Mike


why do you think the trans will fail?

Re: 572 Ray Barton HP guess [Re: ro23car] #1358326
02/07/13 12:25 PM
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We run a 727 in our Duster running 7.60"s in the 1/4.
496 cu in and spray a 500 shot off the brake, we also come out in 2nd gear. No trans problems. JIM

Here is video


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Re: 572 Ray Barton HP guess [Re: Bishop] #1358327
02/07/13 01:58 PM
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I made it to the shop today @ K&K in Huber Heights Ohio today. A big thanks to Bob & Ted Kammer and Greg on the Dyno. Well it made 895HP @6500 RPM & 781 TRQ @ 4700 It looks like the unmodified Ray Barton Crossman lost 25 HP, ran it to 7000RPM HP fell off slightly. 112 gas and best timing @ 28 degree total. I'll post Dyno sheet later.

Brian

Going in a 68 dart 3400lbs with me in it ET & MPH????




Are you sure it needed that 112 fuel?

Re: 572 Ray Barton HP guess [Re: moparguy7074] #1358328
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Are you sure it needed that 112 fuel?




I'll probabaly run Cam 2 110 I can get it for 6.50 a gallon down the street

Re: 572 Ray Barton HP guess [Re: Bishop] #1358329
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try c-14

Re: 572 Ray Barton HP guess [Re: Bishop] #1358330
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I made it to the shop today @ K&K in Huber Heights Ohio today. A big thanks to Bob & Ted Kammer and Greg on the Dyno. Well it made 895HP @6500 RPM & 781 TRQ @ 4700 It looks like the unmodified Ray Barton Crossman lost 25 HP, ran it to 7000RPM HP fell off slightly. 112 gas and best timing @ 28 degree total. I'll post Dyno sheet later.

Brian

Going in a 68 dart 3400lbs with me in it ET & MPH????




28 total timing? That's a little low isn't it? Did you mean 38?

Re: 572 Ray Barton HP guess [Re: moparmanjames] #1358331
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I made it to the shop today @ K&K in Huber Heights Ohio today. A big thanks to Bob & Ted Kammer and Greg on the Dyno. Well it made 895HP @6500 RPM & 781 TRQ @ 4700 It looks like the unmodified Ray Barton Crossman lost 25 HP, ran it to 7000RPM HP fell off slightly. 112 gas and best timing @ 28 degree total. I'll post Dyno sheet later.

Brian

Going in a 68 dart 3400lbs with me in it ET & MPH????




28 total timing? That's a little low isn't it? Did you mean 38?



Hemi's dont like too much timing, most get 32 total, so 28 is realistic. Tim


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Re: 572 Ray Barton HP guess [Re: astjp2] #1358332
02/08/13 03:11 PM
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c12 and 28 degs is good for that combo.
30-32 if tune-up is on.

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