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Paint ? Water or solvent? #1356479
12/20/12 10:15 PM
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My 70 RR is at the paint/body shop ( has been for a while...) but we are getting close and my painter likes the water based paint. I have been told solvent will only get me the correct color.. FC7 purple

Anyone done water based? How does it look?


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Re: Paint ? Water or solvent? [Re: JMCFAN] #1356480
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I haven't used waterbased paint and probably won't untill I have no choice but the guys I know who do use it say the color match is good. Of course that's on newer cars. For this classic car colors no matter what I use I'd get a small sample and do a spray out to check the color. It sucks to buy $1200 worth of paint and not like the color.

Re: Paint ? Water or solvent? [Re: azblackhemi] #1356481
12/21/12 01:34 AM
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Agree do color sample of it. I hope his booth is set up for water based paint. On a side note PPG just came out with water based primer and I hear water clear us not far away and that there are shops doing water clear as trial. It's coming. I do know match on newer is better and if repairing is needed its less hassle with repairing.


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Re: Paint ? Water or solvent? [Re: hotairballoonpilot] #1356482
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Yea his booth is set up... he works out of a large shop who does all water


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Re: Paint ? Water or solvent? [Re: JMCFAN] #1356483
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got test sprays on both... color match is very good... but the water based seems to have deeper color... i like it better


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Re: Paint ? Water or solvent? [Re: JMCFAN] #1356484
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Whoa, really?

If you still have the test sprays would you mind throwing them side by side and snapping a pic for us?


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Re: Paint ? Water or solvent? [Re: Grizzly] #1356485
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Quote:

Whoa, really?

If you still have the test sprays would you mind throwing them side by side and snapping a pic for us?




I was thinking the same exact thing! I would love to see pics! Maybe even base only and base/clear versions!

Re: Paint ? Water or solvent? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1356486
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I agree with the other posts that say "spray it out on a test panel and look at it before you paint the car". I suggest you put the same primer on that test panel as your car has on it before you spray the purple on your test panel.

The carbizole violet (main pigment in FC7) doesn't "cover" (aka "hide") very well, so you do get some of the primer's color showing through. What I mean is if you spray FC7 over light gray primer it will look lighter than the same FC7 sprayed over black primer.

I learned this the hard way when I painted my Roadrunner many years ago and I had all different colored primers all over the car. It took me 5 coats of FC7 before my eyes couldn't see the difference. This is one good reason to primer the whole car the same color before painting, especially with FC7.

Now to answer your question.... it is the pigment that gives the paint 99.9% of it's color, so the tinting of the paint itself by your paint shop is the most important thing.

In general, water-based paint dries slower than solvent based paint and also tends to have more "orange peel" than solvent based. On newer cars this isn't that important because they're all clear coated.

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Re: Paint ? Water or solvent? [Re: PurpleBeeper] #1356487
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Hard to see in sun one is solvent the other water...

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Re: Paint ? Water or solvent? [Re: JMCFAN] #1356488
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Not sure which is more correct, but I like the one on the right better.

Re: Paint ? Water or solvent? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1356489
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you and everone else I have showed them to... the one on the right is the water based


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